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| Quote St pete="St pete"Let's see the letter or can someone post what it's about.'"
Basically he was proposing the most stupid idea known to man.
He wants every team to have 13 on-field players, 4 subs and 2 'reserve' players.
If a player gets sent off, the team can then use one of the 'reserve' players. i.e. always having 17 players vs 17 players.
This was not a joke. He was deadly serious.
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| Sounds great. I want to see that
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| The 2014 grand final between Wigan and St Helens was a disappointment for Wigan supporters who were denied the privilege of watching a game played by 26 players; we only had 25.
The supporters were totally ignored when Flower was sent off and realised that Wigan had no chance after that. I paid top dollar to watch this game yet was cheated by the rules of rugby league. It is time the supporters were put first as these are the ones who suffer the most and without them we would have no game.We need to study the rules to make them fairer in this day and age. To ignore this problem could be catastrophic to the attendances at our games. After another sending off after a wigan v saints game in 2008 I wrote to the RFL to suggest a remedy to this problem. I wrote that teams should have 4 subs and 2 reserves. In case of a sending off one of the reserves would take his place. I put this idea forward to eliminate any unfairness when a player is sent off. The dismissed player would then be the only one punished rather than the rest of the team and the spectators. Which would be good for the game.
Harold Heyes- Wigan.
When I first saw this I was convinced it was a wind up then I thought , well after all he is a wiginer.
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| Quote redex113="redex113"The 2014 grand final between Wigan and St Helens was a disappointment for Wigan supporters who were denied the privilege of watching a game played by 26 players; we only had 25.
The supporters were totally ignored when Flower was sent off and realised that Wigan had no chance after that. I paid top dollar to watch this game yet was cheated by the rules of rugby league. It is time the supporters were put first as these are the ones who suffer the most and without them we would have no game.We need to study the rules to make them fairer in this day and age. To ignore this problem could be catastrophic to the attendances at our games. After another sending off after a wigan v saints game in 2008 I wrote to the RFL to suggest a remedy to this problem. I wrote that teams should have 4 subs and 2 reserves. In case of a sending off one of the reserves would take his place. I put this idea forward to eliminate any unfairness when a player is sent off. The dismissed player would then be the only one punished rather than the rest of the team and the spectators. Which would be good for the game.
Harold Heyes- Wigan.
When I first saw this I was convinced it was a wind up then I thought , well after all he is a wiginer.'"
I think this guy doesn't seem to understand why the player leaves the field after assaulting another player. We might as well just scrap all sendings off as well under his idiotic idea.
I'd love to see the RFL faces when they read that letter.
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| I'd like to know at what point he thinks the fans should stop being considered about player welfare.
Maybe when the chariots and the tridants are used or would harold Heyes, be there with his thumb down, bring on the next gladiator.
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| We need Harold to join the pies forum. That would be very very entertaining
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| Quote St pete="St pete"We need Harold to join the pies forum. That would be very very entertaining'"
it would indeed, but from experience of his "performances" at the shareholders meetings I would almost guarantee his popsts would be pages long. I remember some great "debates" with Wigan chairmen over the years. 
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"it would indeed, but from experience of his "performances" at the shareholders meetings I would almost guarantee his popsts would be pages long. I remember some great "debates" with Wigan chairmen over the years.
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I can imagine it
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I can imagine it'"
Harold must be in his mid to late 70's now, but he was a very good and articulate debater.
"Mr. chairman" and so it began. Uncle Mo was very tolerant of him. Lenegan at times got very frustrated. Whelan didn't know what to make of him, I don't think he was used to people standing up to him Comedy gold. 
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Harold must be in his mid to late 70's now, but he was a very good and articulate debater.
"Mr. chairman" and so it began. Uncle Mo was very tolerant of him. Lenegan at times got very frustrated. Whelan didn't know what to make of him, I don't think he was used to people standing up to him Comedy gold.
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His idea of replacing a player sent off is utter madness.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"His idea of replacing a player sent off is utter madness.'"
It's outstandingly bonkers! Imagine the tactics teams would employ with rules like those! Employ a couple of local nutters from an amateur club, get them to 'takeout' the opposition's best players and then replace your nutters with proper players.
They're a bit like our tactics now minus the new rule suggested (I thought I'd get that in first).
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