Not sure if this link will work on the forum, but this is the Facebook post where I first saw it:

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Just looking at RFL sentencing guidelines, which they have to stick to, the only thing he can be charged with is Punching, repeated, aggressive, sustained, which is a grade E offence carrying a ban of 4-8 matches.

I'm not sure they have any further powers to ban him for any longer unless they use the catch all "behaves in away that is contrary to the trus spirit of the game" which is a grade A-F, which carries 8+ matches.

Putting aside the injury to lance and the negative connotations the incident had on young players watching the game there are surely other factors the RFL have to consider before charging him.

Is that long enough considering the eyes of the world were watching that game last night? It is argued we may never appreciate the impact on the sport through potential lost sponsorships from companies now not wanting to be associated with such a violent act. I hate Wigan as much as any saints fan, but this is also about the integrity of the sport too.

That said, the RFL should on the other hand also offer support to Flower during the ban because this is exactly the kind of incident that can wreck a career and then affect someone in a serious manner. We strongly dislike what he has done and certainly don't condone his actions, but the last thing we need is another terry newton situation.

The video everyone is referring to is actually from a Sky documentary filmed in Australia before the World Club Challenge; it was at HT in a game against (I think) NZ Warriors the week before the actual final.

It has nothing to do with the Grand Final.

He did 7 mins more than Flower, which is good.

Nothing to do with the final, but everyone knows what kind of mentality fathead wants his players to have. That clip makes him look like a right plank after what happened last night.

I don't think people are saying it is. Just pointing out the fact that clearly Wane has this attitude in the dressing room and so it's entirely plausible he sent Wigan out there with a 'win at all costs' attitude leading to the Flower incident. In fact he stated that numerous times in the press during the week.

Wane has to take some culpability for what happened, there's video evidence of him in the past telling his players to 'knock people out', 'cause mayhem' and 'be reckless'. Instilling that attitude into your players is negligent and was always going to lead to a incident like yesterdays sooner or later.

Fair enough, was just making it clear for anyone who didn't know.

One of the most bizarre things I have ever seen, ever. Just what was he thinking the utter clown.

Obviously, talk of legal action is way over the top and we have absolutely nothing to gain for pursuing that. The issue, legally anyway, surrounds consent. The current rule is that you consent to what happens in sport generally unless it goes beyond the rules or norms. It is clear that this incident HAS gone beyond the rules and norms, but I'd rather we did not do that.

The RFL must dish out a massive ban. Massive backlash on social media. I'd say a minimum couple of month ban to send the message out.

I agree. What happens on the pitch stays on it. It was bad, he was a idiot, he let Wigan, wane, himself and rugby league down but let's move on now.

It's taking the shine off our win. Let's mine on. We are the champions and Lance is fine.

Not like he has any form at all is it... www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-6412322

Not like he has any form at all is it... www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-6412322

Just watched the highlights on BBC. They say suspected broken jaw for Lance???