Is there anything to the Williams rumour? He seems like a very good player, I doubt Wigan would let him go or doubt he would even want to leave?

I know this is incredibly unambitious of me to say but I'd like us to sign O'Brien as back up. He really gave us a bit of direction on the pitch and was a decent kicker. It's a better option than playing Wilkin there.

He's 19 I believe, so will be at the end of his junior contract, so who knows, money talks.

I initially scoffed at some of the numbers suggested wheeler was on on the other forum, but the more I thought about it it made sense - the majority of that, plus the promise of regular first team action could sway it in our favour?

This is one of those cases where being away from St Helens means I don't get the word of mouth gossip.

So what in the flying bollocking hell are you all talking about, Walsh leaving ? He's only just got here ! What on earth would make him leave after just half a dozen matches !

Have a look at Redvee, all will be revealed.

Does this mean we can accept the conclusion of that thread, and put the rope away?

Just a bit less cryptic than here.

True, I do wonder since it's now not a secret why it doesn't have it's own thread! Most on their though are concluding he'll see out his contract.

Maybe we should send Walsh's missus round to roby's missus - she wouldn't stand for such nonsense like going to Australia

I've avoided putting it into a thread of it's own as it's all very unconfirmed. Would not wish to be seen to be undermining the club.

People have also self censored themselves. (which is appreciated)

Going back to our original topic, watch the Widnes highlight on the SL website and have a look at the widnes try around 3:20.
Chris Dean effectively blocks John Wilkin from chasing the winger for about 20 yards. I can not imagine Sean O'L (or any other decent back row for that matter)letting the opposition so easily negate him.
Not combative at all.

I doubt any goon player would have allowed that to happen, Dean would have been flattened one way or another. Like him or not Ape man wouldnt accept meekness or not running through brick walls levels of commitment from his players and its something we should learn from them.