Can't see Kyle coming back to Saints, it will be either Salford or Wire for that lad if he is to return from the Darkside.

Modern sport can't be compared to the times of Wigan in the 80s the power has shifted from the clubs to the players (or rather the agents.) it's the same in every sport now - meaning getting players in is harder (more expensive) and players staying is easier (so long as the price is right).

This whole we need to be ruthless in getting rid of players thing doesn't make any sense to me - take perry as a prime example - I doubt there's a saints fan out there (myself included) who didn't at some point mutter "I don't know why we don't just get rid" and free up the quota spot etc etc - yet there's a reason for it, and it's simple - given the drain if Aus talent available, having players to speak well of the club will become more and more important - say us and Warrington are in for an Aussie, perry and Matt king are both respected in aus and well known so said player is going to speak to both before making a decision - if perry turned around and said yeah it was a tough time so they dumped me off it's not going to do us any favours at all, where as the reality is, being able to say he struggled with it, but the club honoured his contract and stuck by him throughout his time in England tips the scales in our favour - at least that's the way I see it! Do you not think Walsh will have spoken to Lyon about saints before signing? Etc etc

We will start being successful again with a few more tweaks here and there - we weren't a million miles away this season (yes we were dire at the start but I believe that's more to do with brown adapting our style) we took Leeds to the wire - and would have probably put up as good if not more of a fight had we progressed - another ball handler in the squad would be great (like Kyle) but even without we should still see an improvement on this year.

Back in topic, is there any more to this story now it's all gone quiet? Or is it a usual Kyle hissy fit before quietly going and picking his dummy back up?

I watched a re-run of the Grand Final where Eastmond scored every point for Saints, and I was thinking that that was the point we really should have sat Eastmond down and discussed a decent sized contract to sign... Hindsight is a wonderful thing

I'm sure kyle will enjoy standing around in the freezing cold waiting for a pass for Bath reserves tonight.

Had he stayed in RL, chances are that he would have been running around for England on Saturday at Wembley.

I hope for his sake that he has hit rock bottom now. Seriously he needs to get away from Bath ASAP, or his career will be completely over.

On the contrary. If he walks away from Bath, his reputation will be tarnished. If he stays, works, and puts a difficult patch behind him, then people will see him a merely being human, a guy who had a personal rough patch and got through it without ing too much up.