that sums what is so wrong with the club at the moment. Why don't we go all the way and sign Howarth on permanently.

Pretty sure he hasn't actually signed it though?

Not sure he's actually put pen to paper tho but he certainly agreed terms.

We should 100% let howarth go back to Salford. He's not good enough.

I wouldn't keep the other out of contract players either with the exception of Flanagan who is IMO a squad player that can cover sia and Manu if need be.

Swap them all for a six. Should not be needed. But all for one six and we are better off.

We also need a prop, centre as well as a stand off. If make prop our priority as we will have the most unfit props in super league next year and need one quality prop to play long mins.

Ade Gardner... Paul Wellens... If you love them let them go.

They are probably saving the good news of wellens and ade signing new deals for when saints get knocked out of the playoffs. It will be just the pick me up the saints fans need.

But where would they go?

If you let them go you're casting them down with the sodomites. Only cas, wakefield london and the like will want them.

How can you be so cruel hearted?

Time to act like a professional sports club, there's no room for sentiment with a salary cap

Spot on.

Fully Agree. Unfortunately the offers to these players have been made.

Wigan's equivalent of Clough is Tuson , he has done nothing wrong
and isn't on megabucks but has been moved on to Wakey.

because Wigan want to freshen things up and give other players
youngsters a go.

Sometimes you need to be ruthless.

Gardner in particular has been well looked after for far too long
for basically a "Dave Tanner".