The guy who thinks Clough is the answer is having a laugh! A journeyman at best. Howarth should never get near a Saints team fair enough. Brown quite clearly does not know what he is doing. The fact that Hudds have quite clearly improved since he has left is proof of that. We look like we are not coached and never have been, no structure, no set moves. Forwards powder puff, how the fairy Laffranchi gets another year is beyond me. No stomach for a fight. LMS is an embarrassment. The abysmal Potter? He got us to 2 grand finals with less pace than we have now. The second best scoring team in the league with him. .Are we 9th now or 10th with points scored? Also 2nd or 3rd best defence. Again we are 8th or worse in that respect. Doesn't look.so bad now? Simmons was sacked for less than this. Rush looks a coaching mastermind compared to this clown. Out of his depth totally. That was the worst saints display I have ever seen tonight. Utterly devoid of ideas. Brown quite simply has to go.

Paul Clough was ill last night as in sic?

If you believe all the rumours about re-signings, currently our squad for next year is pretty much the same

Walsh and Masoe in,
Perry, Puletua and Meli out.

Not a chance we will be anywhere near the trophies for years to come.

The squad needs smashing up - everyone who is out on contract needs to go.

It can't be long until the NRL comes sniffing for Roby, Lomax and Walmsley and then we will be screwed.

One of the above is not far from going mate.

I'll await the thousand pms I'll get from this post but stuff it i don't care anymore if anything gets out.

My guess would be Robes, given that Jammer has been buzzing in his ear about going over there.

Robes going nowhere. One man club IMO.

I'd say Walmsley. I know the rumours of Lomax to Wigan have been denied, but it won't be long before a Wigan or a Warrington come in for him and why would he want to stay here?

What I witnessed last night was an absolute shambles and I am so glad somebody has highlighted the fact that our biggest problem is NB comstantly changing the team before and during games. There is no more excuses of 'key players' being out injured or NB still settling in, it is clearly evident our biggest problem is we never have no fluidity in our play (attack more than defence) due to his constant tinkering. As far as I'm concerned its now damage limitation with our season, so what I'd like to see is our promising youngsters get a solid run in the team to at least give them good experience for next season and beyond. We have ageing players who under perform each week, and players on loan who are blocking the younger lads progression. At the end of the day it can't get any worse than this season has been so far and although they might occasionally struggle we at least know they want to play for the club and will give their all. If I had the power this is roughly what I'd go with now till the end of the season depending on injuries etc.....
Lomax
Swift
Turner
Percival
Makinson

Wheeler/Hohaia
Yates/Charnock

Puletua
Roby
Walmsley
Sia
Manu
Wilkin

Bench:
Hohaia (if Wheeler was fit)
Greenwood
Thompson
Jones/Walker

I would love to see what other people make of this team and how they think they would actually go!

For me Swift, Percival, Thompson, Greenwood with Wheeler/Charnock possibly being regular selections for the remainder of the season.
Howarth and O.Brien to return to their respective clubs, Lance should be paid off as I don,t think he looks all that interested in playing for the club.

You've basically only changed the halves and started with Walsmsley.

Lets get back to basics this year IMO. We can focus on 2014 when this season ends. Lets pick a spine and stick with it for 2013 and try and build on it. I don't see the point in picking youngsters at 7 when Walsh is coming next year.

I would play wello fullback, its the only position he can play and still does a job there and is safe. I would put lomax and wilkin in the halves as lomax is a threat with the ball and wilkin can lead us around the park. Wilkin isn't a great halfback but he does try and organise us which nobody else can.


I'd like to go with : (bearing in mind we can still make the play offs and anything can happen then)

Wello
Swift
Turner
Percival
Makinson
Lomax
Wilkin
Thompson
Robes
Laffranchi (he's crap but nobody else)
Manu
Jones
TP

Hohaia
Walmsley
Greenwood
Lms

Its not much change but that's the squad we are blessed with but the important thing IMO is getting that spine sorted and getting the balance right. The halves offer so much more than O'Brian and wello does.