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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: FearTheVee "So you had your first choice 1, 9 and 13 then? Thanks for confirming there is no comparison.'"
No, Sam went to 6 and Richards to 1.
Thornley went to 5 and Hughes to 4.
Saints decided to move their 1st choice scrum half to full back and send their first choice stand off to Salford.
Missing Gaskell is a bit like Wigan say they are missing Hock. |
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To be honest it's not a fair comparison. We played a pair on young half backs in 2 games, one we won comfortably, one we just about won. If Wigan had all those players out for the next 7 or 8 games I've no doubt we'll be struggling. It's far easier for any young player to come into a winning, confident side playing the same structures as they are used to.
At the same time you have had a new coach, presumably introducing new structures.
One of the points I think the OP was trying to make is an interesting one. Is it better to move experienced players into a half back role or blood youngsters in their natural position when covering long term injuries? For a game or 2 it's probably fine to chuck a pair of kids in but if covering long term absence to expect 2 kids to cover for a large number of games is too much.
For all the doom merchants on here remember what Leeds have done over the past 2 seasons. At times they didn't look like making the play offs. If you have your players back rested and fit at the business end you may well surprise a few.
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "To be honest it's not a fair comparison. We played a pair on young half backs in 2 games, one we won comfortably, one we just about won. If Wigan had all those players out for the next 7 or 8 games I've no doubt we'll be struggling. It's far easier for any young player to come into a winning, confident side playing the same structures as they are used to.
At the same time you have had a new coach, presumably introducing new structures.
One of the points I think the OP was trying to make is an interesting one. Is it better to move experienced players into a half back role or blood youngsters in their natural position when covering long term injuries? For a game or 2 it's probably fine to chuck a pair of kids in but if covering long term absence to expect 2 kids to cover for a large number of games is too much.
For all the doom merchants on here remember what Leeds have done over the past 2 seasons. At times they didn't look like making the play offs. If you have your players back rested and fit at the business end you may well surprise a few.'"
Being out of Billinge for such a long time has certainly mellowed you.  |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Given that Wigan put about 100 points on Widnes last time they played, its fair to say that missing players were noticed.
What Wigan have in place tha we don't is a) replacement halfbacks, rather than a past it full back and a second row and b) a clear game plan and attacking structure for these guys to slip into (one would have thought it would be all the same moves coached to the under19s).
Add to that the confidence of a team playing well and you have a much better result than the one we're getting.
All the above is blindingly obvious, so we don't need a thread essentially inviting the pie eaters on here to gloat about how green their grass is.'"
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Being out of Billinge for such a long time has certainly mellowed you. ![]()
15 years now, I spend most of my time arguing with Union fans to get my kicks
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Not a fair comparison - we've been without our first choice everything of late, not just halves... Let's see how the pies would do without both halves, Tomkins, half their 3/4s and most of their pack and [ithen[/i we could compare notes.'"
Well you did, and I don’t think they did so bad, or is there some else you can bring now? |
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