For me, it all started when Scully retired. Near impossible to replace though. IIRC we have not won anything since have we?

I want us to go back to basics and recruit players specifically for certain positions. By that I mean I want two actual wingers playing on the wing.

I want two actual centres playing there. I want 2 out and out halfbacks playing there. I want 3 or 4 no nonsense props playing there. It's hardly rocket science. Even if they aren't world beaters; even if they are merely "solid" in that position, it will be a position where they have trained all their career.

I am fed up of seeing us trying to put a round peg into a dodecahedron hole. Enough trying to do this on the cheap all the whilst ruining kids careers.

I just want to see an honest to god RL team.

fwiw RE: Griffin there was an interview with him a while back (can't remember where) when he said he shook hands on a deal with you guys, then decided to join Leeds at the last minute instead.

From a playing POV, that turned out to be a horrendous decision for him.

From seeing what he did at Hudds I suspect that isnt browns style though. I agree with you though, it's what the goons have done and it's working ok for them at the moment.

Went chasing the money and got shafted. No sympathy for players with that attitude.

Don't really see Saints troubling the silverware for quite a while to be honest.

What has that got to do with ANYTHING here?

Please, if you are going to troll then at least be amusing.

Saying we should of kept Leon is all well and good,but given his injury record of his last two years it was something of a gamble for us to keep a high earner who may or may not play.Again its something we are judging with hindsight,if we had of kept him and he got injured then people would of been lambasting the board for resigning him.Also while he is a good player is isnt a creative organising player and as was often posted on here and other sites,he would often be invisible in games.

Gidley: =#FF0000[ureplaced[/u with the current first choice GB #3
Scully: irreplaceable, but still =#FF0000[ureplaced[/u by a GB SR/#13
Graham: =#FF0000[ureplaced[/u with an Aussie international prop.
Long: =#FF0000[ureplaced[/u with the best and most exciting young #7 talent in the country.

etc., etc., et-****ing-cetra...

We replaced Graham with a second row and who did we replace Scully with?

You seem to forget at a whim we didnt bother replacing Talau , If we hadn't bothered replacing Gidley we;d have gone from 1 centre to bloody none so we had to do that. Long , well we did have a replacement , in fact we grew several but we f****d up with all of them to some degree or another.