I text my Salford supporting mate with the news and he replied 'Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! I ing hate Howarth! He's e! Even by Salford's standards he's e! We've done you like a kipper there! '

Adding that to the comments from Ave It! in here, and I think we have a good idea of Howarth's quality.

What he is on is not in dispute. It is what he has been offered that I am talking about. As I said I could have misheard and he has been offered a £12,000 rise as opposed to a £12,000 Salary. I didn't see my mate at the weekend as he is working away but I will see him ASAP to confirm.

This is that ridiculous argument again - neither would get in our 2006 team but the players we had then just don't exist anymore and it's pointless to mourn the fact that Saints or other clubs no longer have that quality to call on...

Agreed and Matty Smith is a better than any other 7 we have at the moment. He would walk into our current team, the fact he isn't a patch on Sean Long is irrelevant.

Ironical statement.