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Quote: Judder Man "Looking more and more like a mid table team, we overachieved last year which covered the cracks.'"

Yeah thats my take on it,any team that is relying Perry for go forward,Lance for inspiration is going to struggle.
I'm trying to stay positive but its hard after such lack lustre performances,were lucky to have any points at all,we have to thank Ben Cross and the looney Clarke for two of them.
Of course the standard of SL has dropped due to the standard of Johnny Foreigner coming over,i mean we've had superstars playing for us over the SL era,replacing the likes of Long,Scully,KC,Joynt,Lyon,Gidley,Graham and so on and so on,we've been spoiled.
The board have done us proud with the stadium(apart from the cladding)but recent signings have failed to live up to expectations ,meaning we've had to give contracts to players who are possibly past their sell by date ie; Wello.Meli and it seems TP this season maybe 1 year too many.
Sorry to sound so negative but we need a complete revamp which i think will be very hard to do given salary cap restrictions and NRL pay increases.
Anyway onwards and hopefully upwards

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This is not Saints' worst squad, however, I believe it is the most under-performing squad compared to its 'on paper' potential. For example, on paper Perry is top class, etc. etc.

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What this side lacks most is character. It has no team spirit at all and absolutely no leaders. In teams of old, when it was tight you would always back us to get the job done. Not this team, when it gets tough you feel sick as you know it's going to capitulate.'"


I think this sums it up well actually - we dont suffer from a lack of talent but I do wonder about the lack of character and leaders

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We're playing like a bad team, but we're not. I'm confident we'll get back on track at Bradford on saturday.

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Quote: bewareshadows " If we keep getting better week on week then, we will be in the mix at the right end of the season. I reckon we have 5-6 games to get some form and then people will be rightly asking whether we should try to re-sign Gaskell or let him go for someone else.

He needs time and I'm happy to wait, but with (rumours thread) Lance and TP possibly on the move, then that would leave some big cash available. Tim Smith prehaps???'"


There is a huge decision to be made about Gaskell. Potential is there, can he deliver is the big question. If we let him go then expect him to walk into (insert playoff team here)'s open arms. Will he develop better there, who knows.

Jamie Soward would be nice.

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Quote: Saddened! "

What this side lacks most is character. It has no team spirit at all and absolutely no leaders. In teams of old, when it was tight you would always back us to get the job done. Not this team, when it gets tough you feel sick as you know it's going to capitulate.'"



Don't normally agree with a lot of "Saddened's" stuff but in the above statement he is bang on. Our mind set in games has completely vanished, there doesn,t seem to be much spirit in all the team from 1 to 17 and that includes Roby.
What,s frustrating is that Superleague at the moment is pretty poor, we would only need some moderate improvement to be back in the top 4 mix, but like Saddened has mentioned we don,t have anybody with leadership qualities and inspirational plays. There is a lot pressure on Gaskell now to be creative under pressure, we somehow need to string a few wins together to promote form and confidence.

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