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Quote: Noel Cleal "SGI never crashed late in the season under Brown, so I suspect that Huddersfield may have not had the quality to last the distance. This is why I think Anderson is under more risk than many on here believe.

Huddersfield in my eyes have an over achieving squad that has lost some good players and an untested coach who seem to have an idealistic attitude imo. The thing that could save Anderson is Ken Davy seems a reasonable guy.'"


i think huddersfield (as a huddersfield fan, I am naturally going to think this) are going to do a hell of a lot better this year. we have made some good aqusitions and bolstered a pack that was mutilated by Nathan Brown. if only we could have got gaskell off you we would have been set up for a good run at the league. but still think in robinson and brough we have a good combo (better than saints perhaps) and as a result id argue that we have genuine quality and are deserving of our previous positions and arnt just an over achieving squad.

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Quote: Noel Cleal "Anyone can lead a marathon for the first few miles. Was it Brown or Huddersfield, we will find out this year.

SGI never crashed late in the season under Brown, so I suspect that Huddersfield may have not had the quality to last the distance. This is why I think Anderson is under more risk than many on here believe.

Huddersfield in my eyes have an over achieving squad that has lost some good players and an untested coach who seem to have an idealistic attitude imo. The thing that could save Anderson is Ken Davy seems a reasonable guy.

Maybe it is not the team or the players that matter, maybe it is the chairman. This is why Hull looks like a good bet.'"


SGI consistently underperformed in the play offs under Brown. In knock out games Brown's teams are frequently poor when they are expected to win, slightly better as underdogs.

At SGI there was also inconsistency with runs of 4/ 5 losses and runs of up to 7 straight wins.

The combination of tactical inflexibility (Tony Smith regularly outsmarts him) and over mateyness with cliques of players point to him being a very good assistant coach but not one who will build a champion side.

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Given his contract and the need for the club to stop losing money, I think we can all agree that Nathan Brown will not be sacked next year.

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Exactly. I'm pretty confident that we'll win some silverware with Brown.

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Quote: McClennan "In agreement with you two I think. Here are coaches who I think;

Have 2 years grace at least
Tony Smith
Brian McDermott
Nathan Brown
Laurent Frayssinous

Have 1 years grace at least
Shaun Wane
Peter Gentle
Tony Rea
Richard Agar
Paul Anderson
Denis Betts

Should have 1 years grace (i.e. could be a risk if things go messy quickly)
Francis Cummins
Phil Vievers
Craig Sandercock

Under pressure from the off
Ian Millward

I'm not saying they're fair judgements but based on what's gone before I think they're pretty accurate. Perhaps you could say Sandercock and Betts could be dropped a notch. I think Cas really should just write last season off as one of those and back Millward for the entire season (they may have already stated that to him) to avoid unnecessary disruption. It's their calls though and of the teams, based on last season's efforts, they would have the strongest case if things started badly next year.'"


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Quote: McClennan "In agreement with you two I think. Here are coaches who I think;

Have 2 years grace at least
Tony Smith
Brian McDermott
Nathan Brown
Laurent Frayssinous

Have 1 years grace at least
Shaun Wane
Matt Gentle
Tony Rea
Richard Agar
Paul Anderson
Denis Betts

Should have 1 years grace (i.e. could be a risk if things go messy quickly)
Francis Cummins
Phil Vievers
Craig Sandercock

Under pressure from the off
Ian Millward

I'm not saying they're fair judgements but based on what's gone before I think they're pretty accurate. Perhaps you could say Sandercock and Betts could be dropped a notch. I think Cas really should just write last season off as one of those and back Millward for the entire season (they may have already stated that to him) to avoid unnecessary disruption. It's their calls though and of the teams, based on last season's efforts, they would have the strongest case if things started badly next year.'"

Anderson has already started to eat into his 1 years grace with his inability to turn Hudds round last year. If they have a poor start to the season, he will be in danger from 4 or 5 games in.

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