It would be stupid for anyone to expect him to make the England squad this coming season. He will probably play a dozen or so games, from the bench, against lower opposition. He will only play against top opposition due to injuries. It has to be understood that the gulf between Championship and Super league is vast and it will take at least a season to settle and get up to pace. He has also stepped up from part time so it will take time to build up fitness levels. We may start to see signs towards the back end of the season.

If he gets game time and starts playing very well then great, but this should not be expected this season. Talk of England is at best premature.

Actually, I was agreeing with you and reinforcing your point. Others within the forums seem to be expecting far too much far too soon.

Looks like I completely misunderstood yours then.

I,m suprised we have not given Turner more expectation. It was my understanding that he couldn,t handle all the travelling to Hull.
If he is in a settled environment here and Brown gets to work on him, i reckon he will be a much improved player, he can also play stand off so I believe.

It's easier to rely on the assessment of bitter Hull fans (who largely only voiced such assessment once it was announced he was leaving for Saints) and already assume he is going to be a failure.

That way, you can spend each game eagerly anticipating any error he makes (while ignoring similar errors from your current favourites) so that you can blame McManus' poor recruitment / Brown's poor coaching etc.

If he doesn't make any mistakes, never mind, there's always Meli.

Personally, I'm really excited to have some pace and power in the centres and will judge him on his performances for Saints.

Potentially 3 top signings.

Manu has got the no 13 shirt and I think he should play from the loose forward position and not second row. He has plenty of experience and he could create some kind of partnership with the not so healthy half back scenario.