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| Quote St pete="St pete"You will not be getting anywhere near the amount you suggest for Hock. Believe me!
If Hock or mossop do decide to go ( or both) then I honestly think wigans two year revival will be over. They have lost to many good players and replaced with IMO mediocre players.
Lulu, finch and carmont are massive massive losses and Green, Hughes and Smith ain't in the same league as them. If you then add mossop or Hock to them, I think it's to many good players gone with a lack of quality to replace them.'"
No team in Superleague are going to be replacing their best players with similar quality. So long as their young enough the similar quality ones will be off too! This will happen to us all. The game will decline etc etc
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"What's the point in getting big fees for selling all your best players when there's noone available of vaguely the same quality you can sign to replace them? At least we have our own shiny new stadium generating us lots of nice income meaning we don't have to sell our best players to make ends meet
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Wigan arent selling their best players to make ends meet. Theyre selling them as they dont really have a choice
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Wigan arent selling their best players to make ends meet. Theyre selling them as they dont really have a choice'"
Why don't they have a choice if it isn't financial? Hock, for example, is still under contract. Therefore there was no need to let him go. Unless he has been a naughty boy or something, the only reason a club would let what they consider to be one of their best players go before their contract is up is finance, either to afford the purchase of another player or to free up the salary of the one they are selling.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Unless he has been a naughty boy or something'"
Yup and and really can't imagine that of one of the games true professionals 
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Why don't they have a choice if it isn't financial? Hock, for example, is still under contract. Therefore there was no need to let him go. Unless he has been a naughty boy or something, the only reason a club would let what they consider to be one of their best players go before their contract is up is finance, either to afford the purchase of another player or to free up the salary of the one they are selling.'"
He has either had a disciplinary breach or he simply wasnts to leave. Either way the reason behind it is out of the clubs control. If he wants to leave then the Kyle Eastmond situation will explain why if a players wants to go the contract or no contract there's no point keeping them.
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Wigan arent selling their best players to make ends meet. Theyre selling them as they dont really have a choice'"
It's called "banter" matey.... 
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| Quote DANN="DANN"He has either had a disciplinary breach or he simply wasnts to leave. Either way the reason behind it is out of the clubs control. If he wants to leave then the Kyle Eastmond situation will explain why if a players wants to go the contract or no contract there's no point keeping them.'"
Not really.
Eastmond played Saints like a kipper.
He knew he was going and then "negotiated" a one year extension, with minimal appearances.
So Saints got not a penny for him when he did move.
Wigan seem a bit more savvy.
If Hock goes then Wigan will get a fee, like they did for Joel Tomkins. The interesting one will be Sam after next years World Cup. I think he'll move on (sadly) but IL got him to sign a 5 year contract last year, so whoever wants him will have to pay a LOT of money to get him.
It's not ideal but it's better than Saints did with Eastmond and Graham.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"The interesting one will be Sam after next years World Cup. I think he'll move on (sadly) but IL got him to sign a 5 year contract last year, so whoever wants him will have to pay a LOT of money to get him.'"
But is that true? The reports at the time he signed his deal was that he had a clause in it that allowed him to leave after 2 years. The Saracens fans on their boards celebrated the fact that they could get him for nothing once he'd developed into a world class player and that if he didn't, they'd saved themselves the risk. A lot of people believe his transfer to Saracens was agreed when Joel left.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"But is that true? The reports at the time he signed his deal was that he had a clause in it that allowed him to leave after 2 years. The Saracens fans on their boards celebrated the fact that they could get him for nothing once he'd developed into a world class player and that if he didn't, they'd saved themselves the risk. A lot of people believe his transfer to Saracens was agreed when Joel left.'"
No, the clause was that he couldn't talk to any other club for two years. He would then still have three years left on his Wigan contract.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Not really.
Eastmond played Saints like a kipper.
He knew he was going and then "negotiated" a one year extension, with minimal appearances.
So Saints got not a penny for him when he did move.
Wigan seem a bit more savvy.
If Hock goes then Wigan will get a fee, like they did for Joel Tomkins. The interesting one will be Sam after next years World Cup. I think he'll move on (sadly) but IL got him to sign a 5 year contract last year, so whoever wants him will have to pay a LOT of money to get him.
It's not ideal but it's better than Saints did with Eastmond and Graham.'"
But what's the point in getting a load of money for selling your best players when there's simply nobody around worth using that money in signing to replace them? What are Wigan going to do with the 500 grand they may end up getting for Tomkins exactly? You'll spend 100 grand on another couple of average players from lesser SL clubs at inflated prices and then what? I'd rather hang on to a top class player a few extra years to give us as much chance as possible of winning trophies with them and then get nothing, than offload them half way through their contract and then all sit around a nice big pile of money with nothing to spend it on except for the likes of Smith, Green etc.
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"But what's the point in getting a load of money for selling your best players when there's simply nobody around worth using that money in signing to replace them? What are Wigan going to do with the 500 grand they may end up getting for Tomkins exactly? You'll spend 100 grand on another couple of average players from lesser SL clubs at inflated prices and then what? I'd rather hang on to a top class player a few extra years to give us as much chance as possible of winning trophies with them and then get nothing, than offload them half way through their contract and then all sit around a nice big pile of money with nothing to spend it on except for the likes of Smith, Green etc.'"
This is excatly right! I just dont see Wigan's strategy here. Id rather keep them for the length of their contract, as i was with Jammer.
IL seems to be cashing in on Wigan's talent and replacing it with players who arn't as good he can't need the money so why do it? Its bizarre
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