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Quote: No1 Saint "Some craft and a little bit of class , especially near the line. Lomax's kicking game tonight has been poor again and we just look lost at times, hoping we can barge our way over or cop a lucky break.

Can't knock the effort or commitment of the lads but it's clear to see we miss a player like Pryce or Long to crack open the tight defences. Were not the only team in this position though, the goons looked very 1 dimensional without Tomkins sadly there arn't many top class halfbacks out there.'"


Thought Roby was the guy who makes you tick and tonight he was ON the field. Your second half was like our first half last night....TERRIBLE!

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Quote: smileysmiles "Yes to an extent still think 6 similar to mcguire would have suited him better.

A smith lomas combination could have made a different saint this year IMHO.'"
Yes, but so could a Gaskell - Lomax combo.

Smith is a good scrum half. He can pass, kick and organise. He's not a bad defender, either and can play both 7 and 9.
In a good set up, he'll do his job well, but he'll not be the guy breaking the big games for you - but, he may have played his part in a more rounded team performance helping Lomax or our outside backs play better.

That sort of player is very valuable in a salary capped game, mind. You can't have a team full of stars, but I wouldn't have kept him for any of the players mentioned at the time except, as I mentioned, Scott Moore.

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Smith would be very useful to have in the side right now and he would give us a lot of the components in our game that we have been missing. But given the choice you would never pick him or keep him over an Eastmond. Eastmond is a very rare talent and, given how few alternatives of vaguely the same quality there are these days it was understandable that the club over-persued him and put too many eggs in his basket as it were. It was a terrible mistake to ever allow him to sign just a one year extension, but hindsight is 20/20 and we ultimately just don't know what was going on behind the scenes financially or in other context at the time that led to that decision.

We're still potentially 'reet though - I'm not utterly convinced Gaskell will ultimately be the answer to our creative half issue, but he potentially could be and has a far, far bigger upside than Smith if he does develop. Same goes for Wheeler - if a new coach can sort his head and his body out next year then we could still have a real match-winning superstar on our hands. Add in Lomax and we could have the kind of quality and options at half that most of the rest of the league could only dream of. Lots of ifs though naturally.

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There are a couple of things with Wheeler......I think he expects to be 100% fit before he takes the field. Rightly or wrongly, most professional players spend their entire career at 85-90% and are never fully injury free. Look at the SF, he was out with a finger injury, even though it wasnt widely publicised, Wilkin played most of the final 6 weeks with broken fingers, missing just a game or two after his injury was aggravated.

Gaskell spent most of his junior career scoring tries for fun due to his sheer size advantage and as a result, now that he is in SL, he isnt the ceative half back that people seem to imagine him to be. First and foremost, he is a ball runner and his first instinct is to go himself rather than to look to put someone through a hole. That may work against tired defence but when you have top class defences, it only leads to frustration because you find yourself asking "why didnt he pass?"

His kicking game seems to be better that Lomax or Hohaia so he does have that going for him.

Personally, Id be looking to offload Hohaia and bring someone in.....anyone.....but that is easier said than done. Lomax would greatly benefit from a creative 6 and he would look alot more comfortable at 7 than he does now.

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The Wheeler injury was the finger he dislocated at Warrington and at the moment seems to have some kind of metal support on it.

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Quote: roader "The Wheeler injury was the finger he dislocated at Warrington and at the moment seems to have some kind of metal support on it.'"


Biscuit fingers are always harder to fix than normal ones.

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