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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Actually, if Leeds do beat Cats (I have the feeling in my water that they won't this year though) then I think Wigan are a little knackered as I'd take either Leeds or Wire to do them at the Piedome. I think they'll still pick Leeds or Cats over Wire every day of the week however.'"
It seems to me your feelings seem more wishful ones than anything else, you seem to be almost daring Wigan to take on Wire (if they are in the mix)rather than the seemingly easier bouts with Leeds or the Cats thus removing the task of the Saints having to do a quick double on them at Cardboard park. Have more faith in your own side, and why should the Pies be barmy enough to take on the job for you? Hope to see you in the GF (you never know) knackered or not.
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Much as I hate to say it, but I can't disagree with this one iota. The only way we're going to win the next 2 games is by being mega tight in defence and in complete and total control in the forwards for 90% of each game - if any kind of creative spark or quality back play is allowed to influence the result in either game we will lose, probably heavily. We certainly have the pack to be able to do that once but not twice in successive weeks against top sides. And once the game starts to turn against us at O/T (as is almost inevitable) then we will crumble pitifully and be overrun yet again. We desperately need a break from GFs for a season or 2 and it's being a little self-deluding to think that we can turn up there against Wigan or Leeds in 2 weeks' time after putting Warrington away and do the same to them. We've got a fresh start next season with (hopefully) our first decent coach in 4 full years and a break from the final and the fresh memories of yet another stuffing at O/T is what the squad needs psychologically going into the playoffs next year. I honestly think a big win against Wire next week would be the worst possible thing that could happen to us and our trophy chances next year as a club going forward.'"
I just have a feeling fate is going to do you a favour, and as underdogs warrington will [ifinally[/i make their maiden grand final appearence.
You'll see what a massive benefit the defeat is when you go into next years playoffs.
But then that's just my gut instinct. It could very easily be saints running out at old trafford for what will (imo) be another inevitable defeat.
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| My gut instinct is different.
I think the winners of this Saints v Warrington match will win at OT, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's going to be Saints.
You guys are just traumatised by losing there every year so you are writing yourselves off unnecessarily but I see Saints as a bigger obstacle than Leeds or Wigan. I think if we get past Saints and make the GF then we can beat either Leeds or Wigan at OT, thats not to say I'd take them lightly or be surprised if they won....just I think we have the edge over those sides. Not sure if we have the edge over Saints.
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| Some people saying if we get to OT then we can't beat Leeds or Wigan not for the psychological factor but because we don't have the team, surely we do if we get there the last 3 teams we would of beat would be Wigan, Wire, Wire.
As for getting over the 'hoodoo' or whatever you are only going to do that by getting to grand finals and having another go if we have years off we still haven't won a final and therefore the thought of losing is still there
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| Even though it's been 6 years since we won at OT, it still feels like these losses are just a blip, and that normal service will soon be resumed. All the success we had in the first half of the 2000s has made us a little bit entitled I'm afraid, which makes losing in finals harder to take for us than for teams not used to the big games.
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| Quote: Mr Carl "Even though it's been 6 years since we won at OT, it still feels like these losses are just a blip, and that normal service will soon be resumed. All the success we had in the first half of the 2000s has made us a little bit entitled I'm afraid, which makes losing in finals harder to take for us than for teams not used to the big games.'"
this about sums it up for me
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