I have to agree with Monkey on this one.

I was at Wembley in 87, 89 & 91, but I will never forget that feeling against Bradford in 96, 26 - 12 down I was thinking not again, but what happened in the last 25 minutes or so was unreal.

I've also been to every grand final that saints have appeared in and I had the same feeling after the first win over Bradford (8-6) in 1999 and 2000 v Wigan was special also as this was the first real major final (CC or GF) that I had witnesses us beat the pie eaters.

You have to be in it to win it, I've said this for the last 5 years, but surely if we did do the unthinkable this year (not the best saints team in SL era), get there and win it, this would probably be as goood as anything considering the circumstances!!!

p.s.

we have another 80 minutes to play first though!!!!

Never write off the saints

I just have a feeling fate is going to do you a favour, and as underdogs warrington will [ifinally[/i make their maiden grand final appearence.

You'll see what a massive benefit the defeat is when you go into next years playoffs.

But then that's just my gut instinct. It could very easily be saints running out at old trafford for what will (imo) be another inevitable defeat.

My gut instinct is different.

I think the winners of this Saints v Warrington match will win at OT, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's going to be Saints.

You guys are just traumatised by losing there every year so you are writing yourselves off unnecessarily but I see Saints as a bigger obstacle than Leeds or Wigan. I think if we get past Saints and make the GF then we can beat either Leeds or Wigan at OT, thats not to say I'd take them lightly or be surprised if they won....just I think we have the edge over those sides. Not sure if we have the edge over Saints.

Some people saying if we get to OT then we can't beat Leeds or Wigan not for the psychological factor but because we don't have the team, surely we do if we get there the last 3 teams we would of beat would be Wigan, Wire, Wire.
As for getting over the 'hoodoo' or whatever you are only going to do that by getting to grand finals and having another go if we have years off we still haven't won a final and therefore the thought of losing is still there

Even though it's been 6 years since we won at OT, it still feels like these losses are just a blip, and that normal service will soon be resumed. All the success we had in the first half of the 2000s has made us a little bit entitled I'm afraid, which makes losing in finals harder to take for us than for teams not used to the big games.

this about sums it up for me