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Rogues , i don`t particularly want to change the existing structure for the academy's .I think if this turns out to be true Rugby Union will be doing a merry dance cherry picking our unproven talent at 16/17

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Quote: Wonderful Wire "Rogues , i don`t particularly want to change the existing structure for the academy's .I think if this turns out to be true Rugby Union will be doing a merry dance cherry picking our unproven talent at 16/17'"


I know. As I said I was playing devils advocate. I agree with your statement regarding Rugby Union, they must be clapping their hands.

It was ridiculous enough that the U18's didn't play all teams, i.e Wigan didn't play Wire but played Sheffield.

What I would have liked to have seen is what we had a few years ago at U18 level. A qualifying competition of say 6 to 8 rounds (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and then split the teams into two competitive divisions for the remainder of the season.

Wigan U16 team this year is probably the best club junior side I have ever seen, but would I really want them playing against 19 year olds next year on a regular basis, no. But if they don't where are they going to play? As you say Union clubs will be watching with interest.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I know. As I said I was playing devils advocate. I agree with your statement regarding Rugby Union, they must be clapping their hands.

It was ridiculous enough that the U18's didn't play all teams, i.e Wigan didn't play Wire but played Sheffield.

What I would have liked to have seen is what we had a few years ago at U18 level. A qualifying competition of say 6 to 8 rounds (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and then split the teams into two competitive divisions for the remainder of the season.

Wigan U16 team this year is probably the best club junior side I have ever seen, but would I really want them playing against 19 year olds next year on a regular basis, no. But if they don't where are they going to play? As you say Union clubs will be watching with interest.'"


I would have to agree with most of what Rogues has said here. Personally I feel quite disturbed by these proposals as they appear to be a 'levelling down' of all our clubs junior program, all in the name of keeping costs down. We are bound to reduce the number of talented juniors coming into the game, and surely this is one of our most important objectives ?

I am awaiting more information on how this will all work ( and hoping it was a pet plan of a certain RFL chairman who has now moved on), but it doesn't look good.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I know. As I said I was playing devils advocate. I agree with your statement regarding Rugby Union, they must be clapping their hands.

It was ridiculous enough that the U18's didn't play all teams, i.e Wigan didn't play Wire but played Sheffield.

What I would have liked to have seen is what we had a few years ago at U18 level. A qualifying competition of say 6 to 8 rounds (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and then split the teams into two competitive divisions for the remainder of the season.

Wigan U16 team this year is probably the best club junior side I have ever seen, but would I really want them playing against 19 year olds next year on a regular basis, no. But if they don't where are they going to play? As you say Union clubs will be watching with interest.'"


I would have to agree with most of what Rogues has said here. Personally I feel quite disturbed by these proposals as they appear to be a 'levelling down' of all our clubs junior program, all in the name of keeping costs down. We are bound to reduce the number of talented juniors coming into the game, and surely this is one of our most important objectives ?

I am awaiting more information on how this will all work ( and hoping it was a pet plan of a certain RFL chairman who has now moved on), but it doesn't look good.

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I'm sure I read somewhere that the RFL were pulling the sport England money out of the academy set up. So I guess that's why they're planning a cheaper academy. It's a shocking decision in my opinion and the union threat is a real and genuine one. The switch to summer in the NWC junior and youth league has opened up the chance for union players to play league in the union off season. Which is a good thing on one hand as these lads boost playing numbers and may stick with league. The downside is that union scouts are turning up at youth and junior rugby league games to watch them.

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