What total and utter (moderated). Did Hull KR appologise to the Warrington fans? what about the North terrace at Leeds or even better Odslum. The concorse was a bit wet on the floor in the North Stand, but I would prefer that to what we had a KR - the lovely walk behind the Eddington to our open air facilities. Grow up and put a coat on.

None of those are brand new, state of the art facilities though. Apart from Bradford, Hull KR are in the process of redeveloping their stadium and Leeds are looking to do so also.

How many brand new stadiums have soaking concourses?

I don't see this concourse problem. Is it a health and safety risk or people just a bit scared of getting wet because the easy answer to the latter is to stand away from it.

I don't understand you.

Are you saying that concourses should naturally be soaking wet every time it rains and therefore it can't be a problem?
Or are you saying that we shouldn't complain that it is wet?

I'd have thought the easy answer would be to fix the problem not avoid the problem.

I'm asking why it is a problem. What problem is it causing?

Your wasting your time here mate

Three problems:
Firstly, it is unpleasant for fans to be wet outside, wet in the stands and wet when they are supposed to be 'inside' (as opposed to simply inside, like the South Stand fans and corporates are).
Secondly, it is unfair on and unpleasant for the staff behind the bar who were actually getting wet themselves last night (at least the West Stand bar staff were). They have so far had to endure freezing temperatures without any heating, wind and rain, yet they are bar staff, not fell walkers. They should not have to endure those conditions on what will probably be minimum wage (or any wage for a supposedly indoor job).
Thirdly, there is a potentially significant health and safety problem. If you cannot appreciate that smooth concrete with pools of standing water - literally pools - does not represent a health and safety risk then you are not really reflecting upon the situation deeply enough. The steps on the West Stand were also risky as the smooth concrete there was sopping wet and was slippy underfoot.

The stadium last night was a disgrace IMO.

He also said we'd have the best stadium in super league, he lied.

He also said we'd have a team to grace out new stadium, he lied.

I'll never knock him for what he's done for saints but I'm not beginning to believe a word he says.

On that I agree with you.

The concourses being wet is a massive problem! It's a a health and saftey hazard without a doubt and could also be costly for the club in few years time when the slab starts coming up.

Health & saftey - The concourse being wet mashed the floor become very slippy as the finish on the concrete slab is power floated meaning its finished to a very smooth finish which is 99% used for indoor concrete slabs. If the concourse was designed to be outside then it would have a brush finish which makes it less slippy. Obviously water on a smooth concrete finish will result on someone slipping which results in claims.

Possible cost - The concrete used in the concourses is not for outside slabs. The are concrete mixes for inside and outside. That mix is for inside and when water/rain gets on it over the years, the is a good chance is can scrub off and break up as water gets thru and underneath.

Can we get back on topic please.

This is about the quality of the pitch not about how when it rains you may get the soles of your feet wet.

I swear you would think most Saints fans were expecting the Louisiana Superdome to be built at Langtree park.