personally today i don't think there's much wrong with what he did. However in all the times its kicked off recently in the derby there's been a common denominator every time and that's been him. He's a great rugby player but a scumbag.

Great player though so he's worth the risks!

He didn't do anything today that most players will do at some point in their careers by having a good ruck. He'll obviously get bad press about it due to his past but it won't bother him and he'll be back tormenting defences in a couple of weeks.

Non event really.

'Drug cheat' is the wrong turn of phrase as he was hardly taking performance enhancing drugs!

He received a lengthy ban for turning a ref by his elbow to make his point. Silly, and in my opinion a huge overreaction by the officials at Red Hall (considering the quality of referees I've no idea how any player respects them), but he served his time.

Yes he's a hot head and yes he's not the sharpest crayon on the box, but he's a fantastic player. If he wasn't teams wouldn't target him as much as they do. LMS went in with his head to wind him up, Hock reacted and got the better of him. As per the one that retaliates gets the ban - I hope the guys at Red Hall take a good look at that video and deliver the same punishment to LMS that they did to Hock.

You can tell that the Wigan players knew that LMS got away with at as they proceeded to smash him for the rest of the game.

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There wasn't a hint of Saints players going out to 'house' the wi*an players. At an ordinary scrum, Hock decided to play head hockey with LMS. When the scrum rises, Hock grabs the back of LMS's head and pulls it into his own. It then all goes off, with Hock lashing punches at LMS. That Magennis put a cheap one into Tuson was, of course, wrong. But that bit of action was secondary after Hock's starting pyrotechnics.

After it all broke up, McIlorum looked like a man possessed, whilst Finch dished out a late crunch on mild-mannered-janitor Shenton.

To try to portray all that as a plot by the Saints coaching pair to needle the wi*an players is sheer bobbins.

But, like Muggers said, didn't warrant any reds, just 3 yellows.

Oh dear what an embarrassing thread. Calling players scum is a joke, especially when the biggest coward today was in a Saints shirt.

The type of drugs he used were not a type of cheating. What's "tge game"? It's like a not even half d attempt to have a drunken rant, clearly bitter, it's all you can handle. Hock played fantastically well today, Good lad him.