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Quote: bewareshadows "So far this poor Saints team has made 6 grand finals, it should not take too much to push them that bit further. The big problem for Brown is halfback. Other than that he has a pack that can make yards and tackle teams into their own half. He will get some movement in the backline regardless of how good they are, 3 players due to retire, 1 looking to move on.'"


The thing is though this 'current' Saints side hasn't reached 6 grand final, it's reached zero!

The Saints side of 6 years ago was a fantastic side with supreme players and if Brown had those players to work with he'd pi*s you a trophy but he hasn't. He's got no Long, no Graham, no Sculthorpe, no Cunningham, no Lyon, no Pryce but it has got a nearly retired Wellens, weak centres, a stand off who's really a fullback or back up hooker and a pack of forwards that seems to shy away when the bullets are flying.

I'm not trolling here these are just honest opinions. I admire Saints and i've had to sit through years of watching Saints sides picking up trophies with groups of fantastic players but at the minute your side needs a lot of work. There needs to be an element of patience in bringing through the youth but you also need to be more selective in the players that you sign.

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Quote: NickyKiss "It certainly had more talent then the current Saints squad has.'"


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Utter, utter, utter laughable, one-eyed b******s of the highest order...

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Quote: NickyKiss "The thing is though this 'current' Saints side hasn't reached 6 grand final, it's reached zero!

The Saints side of 6 years ago was a fantastic side with supreme players and if Brown had those players to work with he'd pi*s you a trophy but he hasn't. He's got no Long, no Graham, no Sculthorpe, no Cunningham, no Lyon, no Pryce but it has got a nearly retired Wellens, weak centres, a stand off who's really a fullback or back up hooker and a pack of forwards that seems to shy away when the bullets are flying.

I'm not trolling here these are just honest opinions. I admire Saints and i've had to sit through years of watching Saints sides picking up trophies with groups of fantastic players but at the minute your side needs a lot of work. There needs to be an element of patience in bringing through the youth but you also need to be more selective in the players that you sign.'"


1 Cameron Phelps
2 Amos Roberts
3 Martin Gleeson
4 George Carmont
5 Pat Richards
6 Sam Tomkins
7 Thomas Leuluai
8 Stuart Fielden
9 Mark Riddell
14 Paul Prescott
11 Harrison Hansen
12 Joel Tomkins
13 Sean O'Loughlin
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10 Andy Coley
17 Iafeta Paleaaesina
19 Paul Deacon
23 Lee Mossop


That was the lineup for MM first game. That team would beat Saints now comfortably IMO. As NickyKiss has said, we reached semifinal after semifinal with that side.

Difference for you is that (despite reaching all the GFs) you've lost massive player after massive player for the last 3-4 years. Gidley, Pryce, Long and Graham were 4 of your 5 best players and the simple fact of that matter is that, as of yet, you haven't replaced a single one of them.

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Quote: inside_man "1 Cameron Phelps
2 Amos Roberts
3 Martin Gleeson
4 George Carmont
5 Pat Richards
6 Sam Tomkins
7 Thomas Leuluai
8 Stuart Fielden
9 Mark Riddell
14 Paul Prescott
11 Harrison Hansen
12 Joel Tomkins
13 Sean O'Loughlin
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10 Andy Coley
17 Iafeta Paleaaesina
19 Paul Deacon
23 Lee Mossop


That was the lineup for MM first game. That team would beat Saints now comfortably IMO. As NickyKiss has said, we reached semifinal after semifinal with that side.

Difference for you is that (despite reaching all the GFs) you've lost massive player after massive player for the last 3-4 years. Gidley, Pryce, Long and Graham were 4 of your 5 best players and the simple fact of that matter is that, as of yet, you haven't replaced a single one of them.'"


Yes - most of those backs would indeed make the side ahead of most of our backs at the moment, but only O'Loughlin and [imaybe[/i Tomkins would get near our current pack from that lot when everyone's fully on form. The original statement stands as supreme cobblers.

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