I obviously haven't seen as much of saints as you all have, but the way I see it is:

Wellens would run all day for Saints, however you need more pace from a FB. Put him at 13 maybe.

Hohaia looks more like a 9 than anything to me. Should maybe be spelled with Roby there.

Bringing in a player like we did with Deacon would be beneficial for Lomax and Gaskell and prob for outside backs too, Wheeler etc.

Do you have any big lads in the academy who could be brought in to freshen up the pack?

I'd be more than happy to see Briers and Long come in.




My thinking too...!

You could have had Cooper Cronk & Jonathan Thurston playing today and it would have made little difference.

Wigans pack was again dominant, the four Saints props in particular barely made any ground and were put on their backside far too easily. Soliola lost his rag in the first scrum and Wilkin was non existent.

Keep your filthy thieving mitts of Briers

Us in the East Stand were shouting for the ball to be passed to the right. Our fastest edge never gets the ball. And then, to compound problems, our kicks all went to the left as well, even when there was a space the size of Australia on the right!

We just don't have a single thinker on the pitch. And I include Robes in that because more often than not the move to the left begins with him, and everyone else follows like sheeple.

I didn't expect us to win today because I saw nothing in our performance against Wakefield to suggest we could step up. However, I had hoped to see more attitude in our forwards in particular. But Soliola aside I saw none. So far as everyone else was concerned there wasn't much attitude either, except from Makinson who, as ever, shows no fear or trepidation but steps up in the big games. He should be on the wing as a matter of course, instead of Meli, who, as ever, did precious little in the big game.

We had a lot of territory for a pack that was dominated don't you think?

Have you got money on Briers returning to Saints or something?

He'll finish his career out at Warrington then join our coaching staff. You could offer us a few quid I suppose but the tables have turned in that regard. You'd be better off giving your young halves a chance and replace your (finished) full back.

we had plenty of possesion, and in your half, but could do nothing with it. yes some of that was down to good wigan defence, but more was down to a much less structured attack than yours. Lomax and Lance looked out of ideas from the off

Lance could be a devastating runner which is why it bothers me he doesn't take the line on. Against Wakefield he took the line on once and made a break, he did it once as well today and nearly scored. He just needs to run a bit more and would be more effective at Full Back. The same can be said for Lomax with regards to effectiveness.

It's not often I post I here but you talk utter tripe. I sit in amazement at the rubbish you post. You've become a laughing stock on here.

Rant over



What did you expect from rush? He was left a complete mess to sort out. The players had no confidence, we was on our worst run ever, to many young players being relied on and I just couldn't see where the next win was coming from.

Rush and KC have come in and restored some confidence in the team but what can they do in 2 month with the mess Simmons left us in?

He's brought in lance hohaia to play stand off which was a horrific idea. He's brought in boof to play prop when he's a backrow.

The problems stem from the Simmons mess and IMO rush and KC are doing ok sorting out the Simmons mess until Nathan Brown arrives.

Your constant championing of Royce Simmons and lance hohaia is laughable!

Royce Simmons is the worst coach we've ever had fact!