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Quote: SaintsFan "I think you are confusing style of play with level of performance. I was talking about style of play, responding to the point about playing 'the Saints way'. But we were as conservative against Widnes as we were against Bradford and Hull, for example. The big difference is that certain players have started making an effort going forward (attitude) and the individual errors have dropped. As you identified, the greatest sources of those indivdual errors were Gaskell and Foster and they have been dropped (something I too was suggesting over a month ago so as to get their confidence/form back).

I wonder if anyone ever considered that we actually need to play conservatively because the team is not capable of playing otherwise?

Well, as I've said before, I wasn't of the view that the team would have stayed the way it was with Royce in charge because we turned around last year and on that evidence there was no reason to believe we wouldn't have turned around this year, especially since our losses were so very close (and in the last two, with Robes and others out injured). However, what I would rather have is an experienced coach in charge and unlike some people I don't rate our current set up solely based upon the fact that they've been at the club for ages. That doesn't make them good first team coaches. I think though that McManus was banking on the fans being appeased in the way that many have been appeased because he would have known that he couldn't have pulled off what he did without choosing exactly those two people to be in charge.

However, I just view them in the same way I would any other coaching team and so far as I can see, bar the individual errors, we haven't changed as a team. We still have the same frailties, as last week showed. We still play to the same style.'"


No i'm not confusing anything. We're doing lots of things differently now and players are given different direction under the current coaches, I know that for a fact too so it's unfortunately not something thats open for debate.

With regards to your experience issue, anybody who isn't so obsessed with Royce Simmons would be able to tell you that experience in the team has been key, the thing with Swift in particular is it's easier to bring youth into a team that isn't under the cosh in the same way we'd been. It needed some experience to steady the ship, that did the job and now we're in a far better position that we were under Simmons.

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Quote: St pete "I'd rather to Inexperinced (is rush Inexperinced) than having a complete idiot who took us on our worst ever run and made us a joke at our new home which resulted in booing the tran off.'"

Rush is inexperienced at first grade level yes. He has only one season at assistant level (he was assistant to Daniel Anderson for a season when our assistant left and before the new one was appointed).

As for booing the team off: that happened under Potter and according to relatives who have been watching Saints for 60 plus years, has happened many, many times over the years. Saints fans have traditionally booed the players when unhappy with performances, so I'm told.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Rush is inexperienced at first grade level yes. He has only one season at assistant level (he was assistant to Daniel Anderson for a season when our assistant left and before the new one was appointed).

As for booing the team off


Not nice in the new home tho.

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Quote: St pete "Not nice in the new home tho.'"

Nope but then I don't like being berated over the tannoy either or some jobsworth steward stopping the Typhoo Tea Ladies lobbing little packs of teabags into the crowd.

Anyway, enough of this thread. Having seen the marvellous Steve Prescott interviewed on national TV prior to the marathon this morning, I'm going to actually watch the marathon in support of him and Scully, and hope that they make it to the end in good nick and raise loads of dosh for charity.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Nope but then I don't like being berated over the tannoy either or some jobsworth steward stopping the Typhoo Tea Ladies lobbing little packs of teabags into the crowd.

Anyway, enough of this thread. Having seen the marvellous Steve Prescott interviewed on national TV prior to the marathon this morning, I'm going to actually watch the marathon in support of him and Scully, and hope that they make it to the end in good nick and raise loads of dosh for charity.'"


I'm off out min anyway and do something your beloved Royce couldnt do. (coach a team to a win)

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Quote: SaintsFan "All views are selective, all of the time.

And you know this how? You don't. As you said above, we can all be selective in the views we take. You have selected to choose not to believe a coaching collective exists; at present anyway, I choose to believe that it does.

People just interpret the evidence in their own way, as you said above.'"



You may chose to believe that a coaching collective exists, but it is not true to say that this has been stated by anyone else other that yourself. Which is what I meant.

It maybe true - it may not be, but it's not been said by anyone from the club that we have a coaching collective. I may say that we are consulting mystic meg for advice every week, but it does not mean anyone at the club has said that.

The only mention of a collective I can find comes from here

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"It is a tough start for me and Keiron (Cunningham) but it's a challenge. We want to turn our season around as a collective."
Quote: SaintsFan "All views are selective, all of the time.

And you know this how? You don't. As you said above, we can all be selective in the views we take. You have selected to choose not to believe a coaching collective exists; at present anyway, I choose to believe that it does.

People just interpret the evidence in their own way, as you said above.'"



You may chose to believe that a coaching collective exists, but it is not true to say that this has been stated by anyone else other that yourself. Which is what I meant.

It maybe true - it may not be, but it's not been said by anyone from the club that we have a coaching collective. I may say that we are consulting mystic meg for advice every week, but it does not mean anyone at the club has said that.

The only mention of a collective I can find comes from here

www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1817

"It is a tough start for me and Keiron (Cunningham) but it's a challenge. We want to turn our season around as a collective."


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