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Having only watched Rugby League since 1999 play offs is all I've known so I can really only comment from that side of it. I'm sure those fans old enough to remember the 1996 season and before will be able to compare winning the league from 1st and from Old Trafford better.

I have always liked the play off concept and have been in favour of it because, as I say, it's what I'm used to. When it was Top 5 or even Top 6 the league games still felt important enough and the play offs felt like huge games with a magnificent occasion at Old Trafford as the climax. Each league position had a clear advantage over the one beneath it, especially with the Top 5 so there was a desire to finish as high as possible in the regular rounds. Also the intensity and tension of the play offs themselves was great in my opinion.

However, with the move to Top 8 my opinion has begun to become less fixed. Although the games can still be tense and exciting its diluting of the league has made it have more of a detrimental influence than a positive one. Teams only have to finish in the Top 4 in reality to have a potentially good chance of reaching the Grand Final and a good side might still be able to do it from outside the 4. The league games are undervalued far too much with the present system. And that's not to mention Club Call which goes against the whole ethos of sport in my view.

I would still answer Yes I think play offs are a good way of deciding champions but only if the play off system is not seen to detract from the weekly round 'bread and butter' games we watch all year. The previou play off systems just about avoids doing this but the Top 8 does have a diluting effect in my opinion.

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Like the Grand Final format and have done since their inception, however there is the contingent of fans that believe top spot should be champions... Why play in the Super League when you know that to be champions you have to be at Old Trafford in Early October?

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Quote: saint at wire "Ask the same poll question on the dire forum this week and it will be 100%

au contraire

Most Wire fans like the playoffs as it usually presents our best chance of winning. This may be a brief oasis of us being top of the league, I wouldn't bet on this being a regular thing.

I like the playoffs as it exposes who can deal with the pressure.

I think the Saints need to take some lessons from Wire, we've been in 2 finals in recent years and won both of them - Saints have now lost 4 in a row... you are getting like the Bradford team of Brian Smith and Elliott.

Maybe Saints could ask Warrington for tips on how to stay composed and win major finals icon_ask.gif

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Quote: sally cinnamon "au contraire

Most Wire fans like the playoffs as it usually presents our best chance of winning. This may be a brief oasis of us being top of the league, I wouldn't bet on this being a regular thing.

I like the playoffs as it exposes who can deal with the pressure.

I think the Saints need to take some lessons from Wire, we've been in 2 finals in recent years and won both of them - Saints have now lost 4 in a row... you are getting like the Bradford team of Brian Smith and Elliott.

Maybe Saints could ask Warrington for tips on how to stay composed and win major finals


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Nice try but in some of those years that we lost finals, we also won them too, 3 cups on the bounce I believe.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "McClennan wrote a rather dramatic post about proving your might in the arena against the best, and how in ye olden times to become the champion at something you would have to seek out the current holder and beat them.rl]'"


Thank you sir, although I don't know where you get the dramatic from hererl.

Quote: Offside Monkey "Question, did any of you guys [ifeel[/i like champions the years we topped the league and then got bumped by Leeds when we had the chance to show who was the better team over 80 mins?'"


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Quote: bewareshadows "

Who were those finals against though....walk in victories against mid table sides

In 2009 we beat a team that finished 5 places above us in SL and in 2010 we beat the three times consecutive Super League champions. As for Saints in the Challenge Cup in those years, well knowing that the mighty Wire awaited them in the final I think the pressure was too much in the semis!

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