Wembley and the CC is a million times better than the grand final!!!

Not if you lose the first and win the second!

Cardiff is a million times better than Wembley. Wembley is great because it's "Wembley" and carries great history but forca day out at a top class stadium then Cardiff heats it hands down

Agreed,
As I just posted on the other thread. The Stadium itself, great facilities, great view, plenty legroom, but why spend all that money and do sod all with the infrastructure. We were staying overnight so went by coach, why no link direct road from the motorway? It was after 6 p.m by the time we got off the car park.
Still far too few restaurants and bars close to the stadium and not enough toilets outside the ground.

I agree about Cardiff. I went to the new Wembley for the one and only time when we beat Hull in 2008 and although it was a great result, I hated the stadium. I thought it was a soulless place and way too steep where I was sitting. I had a hit of vertigo, I was too far away to tell who was who (bar the different teams) and I was too removed from other sections of fans to really sense any atmosphere. Whereas at Cardiff, which I went to for the first time this season, the atmosphere even with only 30,000 was ten times better. The low roof over the lower tier really helps and the action is much closer. If it wasn't for the kudos and coverage holding the final at Wembley brings, I'd be 100% behind the final being permanently staged at Cardiff. There is a far, far better environment around the stadium too. The new Wembley has destroyed what was so good about the old one: all the atmosphere around Wembley Way and such like. It's just a miserable dump of an industrial estate.

totally agree. Cardiff is my favourite stadium and challenge cup venue

Can't beat a good night out in Cardiff after the final.

I agree with the pro-Cardiff brigade. Saturday was my first visit to the new Wembley. Great view from our seats, good stadium, right result (for me, of course), but not a patch on the Cardiff experience. Apart from the Millennium being such a great stadium, Cardiff being a small city means everyone stays together, whereas in London the crowd soon disperses. Better atmosphere all round in Cardiff. I would have kept the Challenge Cup Final there.

Got to be a serious concern 6,000 Less Tickets sold from last years CCF at Wembley, what does it look like all those empty red seats around the ground, Twickenham must have a real grin across their faces at RFU HQ, but then this season a lot of clubs are also suffering with declining attendances, though we keep getting told the game has never been better, is it just the financial situation.

The night before a final a special night is always held for media etc, this season the Sponsors budget was low and could not run to it so the two clubs and the RFL had to chip in!

I do have worries about the game at Wembley on 5th November tickets have to be sold! we are tied in at Wembley for the Final for long term.

Why?

78,000 plus turned up this year; 76,000 turned up in 2009 and if you look back to when the new Wembley opened, 2010 was the exception and not the rule. If you look back further to the old Wembley, the figures are similar with a few spikes into the 90,000s. Rugby league attracts around 75,000 to its showpiece final and has done for decades. If the seats hadn't been empty in big patches we probably wouldn't have noticed them. And we were spoiled last year because it was a technical sellout (I say technical because there was still the ring of indifference to spoil things).

And I think 75,000 is pretty damn good for a sport that gets absolutely no media coverage and is often treated as if it is less popular than tiddlywinks.

2007 St Helens 30–8 Catalans Dragons Wembley Stadium, London 84,241
2008 St Helens 28–16 Hull Wembley Stadium, London 82,821

2010 Warrington Wolves 30-6 Leeds Rhinos Wembley Stadium, London 85,217
2011 Wigan Warriors 28 -18 Leeds Rhinos Wembley Stadium, London 78,482

Why? because season 2009 seemed a blip, was it Huddersfield were not a draw, look at all the 80,000 plus! my comment was the decline since 2010.