Saints weren't awarded an A license because of their stadia. They are effectively homeless at the minute amd the marks are based on current faciliites, not facilities that they might have next year.

Well said mate

I think the Saints marketing is pretty good. You see the player splastered all over the buses running to and from St Helens, even the ones running through places like Wigan & Leigh. LIke a previous poster said, they may not have as much income to throw at the marketing side of things like for instance Wigan [No cost of building new stadia] or Wire [Sugar Daddy] I'd agree that Saints application was stronger than Widnes'

But surely marketing is far more than somply buying an advert on the side of a bus? The best marketing efforts were from the Bulls at the start of their good spell, when Bullmania dragged in a huge increase in crowds, plus the model that I belive they follwoed, in Keighley Cougars. Whether these are sustanablwe models to follow has still to be proven, but they were fantastic marketing efforts. I don't think you can say that Saints are well marketed, when we continually have disappointing crowds, despite having the best and most successful team in Super League, and probably in Saints long history. The measure of marketing success should be bums on seats, or merchandise sales, and in both of these cases, you would have to say Saints are failing.

Saints could get better crowds if supporters only had to pay what Wigan supporters pay for their season tickets, or like Huddersfield who at one stage got 2 for the price of 11, or indeed Wire who get away transport payed for.

2 for the price of 11 doesn't sound a great deal. Sounds like Hudds do well to get any season tickets sales!!