I don't have to go around asking them - too busy trying to shut them up from spouting on actually..............living in Warrington, I think it's quite possible that I do meet a few don't you think? Seems to be a hell of a lot more of them these days too, since you won a couple of cups.

And as for not seeing Saints shirts around Warrington, then you must go around with your eyes closed..........and do Warrington have a supporters club based in St Helens like we have one in Warrington?

No, thought not.

Really, I think you can have structure and off the cuff. Tomkins is fairly off the cuff and we have done so good stuff too.

I don't think there are any absolutes in sport and as soon as you think you have discovered a winning formula that's when other teams go by you by rethinking the wheel.

Sometimes it's big players that are the fancy of the day, other times speed, other times a mobile pack. Some times it's ball handlers other times it having a kicking machine that help.

Some would say defence is the key at the moment, but it will only be a matter of time when an attacking side rules the day as when all defences come to a standard it takes the team that can attack to make the difference and as soon as everyone latches onto that, defence will be king again.

Tomkins is so off the cuff he doesnt even know himself what he is going to do when he gets the ball. A rugby genius like Sam does cause problems for his own team, sometimes all you can do is give him the free reign and back him up when he produces another gem of RL genius

I said elsewhere on this thread that the only players who are off the cuff at Wigan are Leuluai and Tomkins.

Congratulations. 1460 posts and finally one that's worth reading even if you have lathered it in sugar-coated Wigoon cheese.