I have been watching Saints for well over 40 years, have been through the period of Goon dominance, and never, ever thought I would want Wigan to win any game, especially a cup game, ever ever.......however, living in Warrington and having to listen to all the knuckle draggers bang on about how great they are, best RL team ever, having to build a new trophy cabinet, Saints are finished etc etc etc has changed my opinion for this one.

They need bringing back down to earth with a very big bang.

Posters up all over Warrington of Morley with the cup, with the caption "if you want it come and get it"

I hope Wigan do this weekend and wipe that bloody smug grin off their faces. Wire fans - no class whatsoever.

No, a loss to Wigan in a final wouldn't hurt as much as one to Warrington, and I really didn't think I would ever say that.

Hope they knock 7 bells out of each other in the process too.

Really, I think you can have structure and off the cuff. Tomkins is fairly off the cuff and we have done so good stuff too.

I don't think there are any absolutes in sport and as soon as you think you have discovered a winning formula that's when other teams go by you by rethinking the wheel.

Sometimes it's big players that are the fancy of the day, other times speed, other times a mobile pack. Some times it's ball handlers other times it having a kicking machine that help.

Some would say defence is the key at the moment, but it will only be a matter of time when an attacking side rules the day as when all defences come to a standard it takes the team that can attack to make the difference and as soon as everyone latches onto that, defence will be king again.

Tomkins is so off the cuff he doesnt even know himself what he is going to do when he gets the ball. A rugby genius like Sam does cause problems for his own team, sometimes all you can do is give him the free reign and back him up when he produces another gem of RL genius

I said elsewhere on this thread that the only players who are off the cuff at Wigan are Leuluai and Tomkins.

Congratulations. 1460 posts and finally one that's worth reading even if you have lathered it in sugar-coated Wigoon cheese.