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| Quote: Gerry Mander "The game has changed. Pacy attacking fullbacks are the vogue. That's just the way it is.
Wellens has a future in the back row. There is a particular job of work to do getting
the right side attack moving. He would be perfect for that. Also his defence and an
80 minute engine would be plusses.
It is irritating when every thread on fullbacks turns into a "you are knocking
wellens" thread against anybody who raises a question.
Wellens is longtime favourite of mine and is much more deserving of legend status
and respect than any other SL Saint including Cunningham and Sculthorpe.
However the aussie fb model (Slater, Hodgson et all) is the future and that is that.'"
Spot on!
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: wertyuio "Carrer stats do matter....he is beaten to a high kick rarely and for that to result in a try rarely still. Had he have done that in 2004 (where it would have been equally as rare perhaps), would that have signalled his departure?'"
No it wouldn't, but it didn't as often and that is the point.
Quote: wertyuio "Agree that he is doesn't do the good things as much as he used to (who does) but not sure I agree that these are diminishing noticeably or significantly. Nor do I subscribe to statements likes "he used to consistently beat the first man now its a surprise". He did do it more frequently than now but not sure that its a considerable reduction. Also think game has changed considerably in the last ten years to contribute to this (not meant as an excuse). He is gettin older but still believe he brings plenty as well as instilling confidence in rest of team.'"
The game hasn't changed that much in regard to kick returns, he does bring plenty that's why he's still there, but there comes a point in every career when the cons start to outweigh the pros and Wellens is getting past tipping point for me.
Quote: wertyuio "Without getting into the merits of individual players, would rather still have Wellens as fullback that someone like Tomkins, despite Tomkins's attacking prowess.'"
We'd be top of the league with Tomkins at fullback IMO. He contributes to the points scored column far, far more than he does the points against.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Compared the Millward era I'd agree, .'"
Except in the Millward era (a) we had better players, and (b) we had more experienced players. It's easy to coach a team full of talent like ours was back then. It's a tougher job coaching what we have now, especially given the high number of young players we have had to field this season.
But under Simmons we can, once again, score from deep. We can pass to our edges. When we have managed a couple of weeks without half a dozen players limping off injured, we have actually had pace and accuracy in our passing. We look fit, trim and determined, even when we play poorly.
Give me what we have now to what we had under Potter any day of the week. Assuming Leon actually said what the old troll is saying he said (and I am skeptical), if he doesn't like it then I won't cry if he goes.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "We'd be top of the league with Tomkins at fullback IMO. He contributes to the points scored column far, far more than he does the points against.'"
His defense is massively underrated. He came up with two or three try saving tackles against Exiles at the weekend.
Wello for us just get there anymore. How many tries do you see where he's arriving at the scene just as the try scorer is getting up to celebrate? Love the guy but it makes sense to think about the future.
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| Quote: Saddened! "How many tries do you see where he's arriving at the scene just as the try scorer is getting up to celebrate? Love the guy but it makes sense to think about the future.'"
All the ones he's had a hand in creating. And he's scored a few himself!
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