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| The Wire were getting on average 5000-5500 per game at wilderspool. So they have added 60-70% growth since moving to the HJ
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"thats it, wire were averaging about 7-8k at wilderspool, obviously a big upturn in their form has boosted crowds as well.'" Think your being very generous there pal if you dont mind me saying.Wire use to get say 4.000 to 5,ooo on average as per home game depending on opposition of course 7,ooo to 8,000 would be the likes of wigan,saints,widnes.
When wires moved from wilderspool you could say we doubled our crowds all of a sudden!!
Yet wigan moved from central park to the DW and lost so many thousand!!strange but true.
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| Quote the ditch="the ditch"Think your being very generous there pal if you dont mind me saying.Wire use to get say 4.000 to 5,ooo on average as per home game depending on opposition of course 7,ooo to 8,000 would be the likes of wigan,saints,widnes.
When wires moved from wilderspool you could say we doubled our crowds all of a sudden!!
Yet wigan moved from central park to the DW and lost so many thousand!!strange but true.'"
well i only noticed the crowds when i was there!
and perhaps wigans crowds went down as there dominance did, like yours went up as your team got much better?
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| Quote the ditch="the ditch"Think your being very generous there pal if you dont mind me saying.Wire use to get say 4.000 to 5,ooo on average as per home game depending on opposition of course 7,ooo to 8,000 would be the likes of wigan,saints,widnes.
When wires moved from wilderspool you could say we doubled our crowds all of a sudden!!
Yet wigan moved from central park to the DW and lost so many thousand!!strange but true.'"
I may be wrong, but I think Wigan's attendances had already quite seriously dwindled before they left Central Park.
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"Don't forget original capacity was set at 14,000+ but was reduced as the terracing became too cramped at that level.
With it being the same construction company being responsible for the design and build of your stadium you have to hope they have learnt from their mistakes. I would imagine that the calculations for arriving at the capacity will be based upon the same design standards but at Warrington I think it is the layout and spacing of barriers together with size of the going on the terrace being in-adeqaute that causes the problems.
You'll never know until the opening night whether the calculations are right of not.'"
Funny you should write this, as when i found out Barr had got the job, my first thought was about Barr "manipulting" the stadium capacity figure when built, for the HJ in Warrington.
Looking at the projected terrace capacities at Saints new ground. They do look larger stands than at the HJ, yet have stand capacities approximately the same as your terrace behind the sticks. So hopefully we wont suffer anything like the issues you guys did when the ground opened.
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| Quote Dux="Dux"I may be wrong, but I think Wigan's attendances had already quite seriously dwindled before they left Central Park.'"
Wrong, some were disenchanted by the move from CP, as everyone wanted CP redeveloped not turned into a supermarket. I know one of two that havent bought a season ticket since, a bit crazy if you ask me but its not my money to spend!
New Stadiums are the way forward, but its inevitable that some atmosphere is lost whilst in an all seater stadium.
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| Quote shambawangy="shambawangy"Wrong, some were disenchanted by the move from CP, as everyone wanted CP redeveloped not turned into a supermarket. I know one of two that havent bought a season ticket since, a bit crazy if you ask me but its not my money to spend!
New Stadiums are the way forward, but its inevitable that some atmosphere is lost whilst in an all seater stadium.'" I think its a difficult one,Wire fans fought tooth and nail to get a new stadium maybe we saw it as a way forward!
It was a bit different with with wigan and i have mates who watch or use to watch .Your new ground went on the other side of town,so lets say average joe use to get a bus to go and watch his beloved wigan,Now all of a sudden average joe had to get 2 buses to go and watch them play..
I know you say some were disenchanted by the move i would say it is down to shear stubboness.
You either support your team or you dont.
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| I think it has something to do with DW is all seated but HJ has a standing pop side, great for atomosphere.
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| Quote -Tracie-="-Tracie-" I would love a ground '"
can end that sentence there !
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| Quote shambawangy="shambawangy"Wrong, some were disenchanted by the move from CP, as everyone wanted CP redeveloped not turned into a supermarket. I know one of two that havent bought a season ticket since, a bit crazy if you ask me but its not my money to spend!
New Stadiums are the way forward, but its inevitable that some atmosphere is lost whilst in an all seater stadium.'"
Surely that is what your gay Ultras are for?
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Surely that is what your gay Ultras are for?'"
havnt you got these two words the wrong way round? 
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