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Quote: SaintsFan "Which forward would that be then?

Then you're out of synch with your fellow Wigan fans who I have seen write that they would snap up Pryce, Eastmond, Roby, Tony P and Graham, even now with their soopa doopa squad which is all conquering and the start of a new dynasty! But the same goes for Warrington, Leeds, Hudds, etc. I've seen fans from all those boards wish they had a Roby, Eastmond, etc, in their teams. You really need to read around a bit before making these assertions you know.

"I say it so it must be true" is always an interesting premise, I find.

No, of course not! When would a Wigan player belittle Saints' academy products? I would never have imagined such a thing.

So far as Gleeson is concerned, you need to read up on your RL history mate. As for Briers, in his own words written in the RL press just a few weeks ago, he 'spat his dummy out' and left Saints because he didn't think he was getting the amount of game time he needed at the time he left. We haven't regretted it though because we got Longy. And Longy was much, much better than Briers. His loss, not ours!'"



Firstly I'm not a Wigan fan. So... yeah.

I may follow your style of making up context to things the other person has said.

Or i'll just answer what you said honestly.

A1. Soliola. Grand Final.

I have mentioned i'm not a Wigan fan. but my picks for players that could walk into other teams were Graham and Eastmond and Shenton. So yeah you are agreeing with me. I've not seen support for Roby (the second best player at SAints IMO) or Tony P and certainly not Pryce. As i said Bradford want him. That is all i have read. Maybe i haven't read enough but both the SAints board and the Bradford board see him traveling across the M62. Don't deny that.

Don't be so ignorant. I have provided a long list of reasons why i don't think the other players you mentioned would "walk" into "most" clubs.

Don't know what you are talking about with the Wigan academy thing. But I personally know a good academy. Saints have proven this year that their youngsters will become good. Foster, Lomax, Clough and Dixon are all talents. They will BECOME good.

Yeah Longy was great. He would have walked into any club. In fact he retired to Hull FC, one of the richest clubs in terms of history. It doesn't matter whether you kicked out the player or they sought more money or they "spat their dummy out" i was saying you don't have those players (that can walk into any club in super league) now.

That isn't a dig at your history. It is more a comment on the SAints of the off season 2010. Today you have three or four palyers who are good enough to walk into "most of" super league.

And also a side note Rlfans are way different to coaches at the respective clubs. Even if the whole saints board thought a player was good. doesn't mean they will walk into a club. Just as Wigan and Warrington etc thinking certain players are good. If you had said that "Kevin Brown and Tony Smith say so and so is a great player" then so be it but saying fans like a player means nothing. We give opinions but don't assume it is gospel. I don't think more than three or four of the SAints players mentioned would walk any SL Club. SAying that other fans really like them though means nothing.

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Quote: Noel Cleal "By the way the only players not to resigned or confirmed leaving are...

Jamie Ellis
Shaun Maggenis
Andrew Yates
Gareth Frodsham

I can't see all of these players getting released especially Maggenis.'"


I can see them all being released myself.

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Quote: MacBlondie "I can see them all being released myself.'"

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Quote: jdrocket "You haven't really answered the question (of sorts) how many of those players do you think would be SNAPPED UP by the top eight?'"


I would say that the only doubt amongst our front seventeen would be Gidley because of his age. After him I think that every single one our them, including Gardner, would get interest from at least one top eight team. To put it into perspective, every single one of our pack would get a spot in the Wire front seventeen and we'd probably even have three hookers that would get in there (including the retiring KC).

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Quote: jdrocket "If you took your red V specs off, you might agree with me.
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These are players with potential but don't trick yourself into believing these are star players that every team is jealous of. '"
You see, you argue every point as if from an unbiased veiw, but there's certain points that, for me, make it seem like you've got a bit of a downer on us.

This bit for me gives you away
Quote: jdrocket "Perry- Don't know much. What i do know he is an ageing aussie. Who so far is not well indorsed. Saints have a way of making good on this sort of deal and in a couple of seasons would maybe be snapped up by "nearly every" team. ATM too much of a liablity to risk.'"
Perry is 29, which pretty much anyone would agree is a great age for a prop. He is an Aussie international and has played SOO this year. He's also won grand finals with 2 clubs down under.
Now, if you go on each of the boards here and ask the supporters if they'd be happy to swap one of their senior props for someone of that pedigree, i'm sure 9/10 of them would say yes.

Sia soliola is a 24 year old Kiwi international. I'm pretty sure we weren't his only option when we signed him and if you reckon that players like Pryce and Wellens wouldn't be welcome at pretty much any club in the league the you're kidding yourself. Senton's been mentioned, If you ask wigan and leeds fans whether (issues like wages aside) they'd like to swap him for Carmont, Delaney or Senior, I think the majority would answer yes.

FWIW the days of players being snapped up and having a queue of suiter clubs has been finished by the slalry cap, but ask the species if they'd swap one of their current squad members then its an easier answer.

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