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Quote: jdrocket "A proven leader is always better than a big forward who then disappears when the going gets tough.'"

Which forward would that be then?

Quote: jdrocket "You haven't really answered the question (of sorts) how many of those players do you think would be SNAPPED UP by the top eight? I certainly can't see the current top 4 (or 3 without SAints) fighting for them. They have better players in those positions, apart from Graham. '"

Then you're out of synch with your fellow Wigan fans who I have seen write that they would snap up Pryce, Eastmond, Roby, Tony P and Graham, even now with their soopa doopa squad which is all conquering and the start of a new dynasty! But the same goes for Warrington, Leeds, Hudds, etc. I've seen fans from all those boards wish they had a Roby, Eastmond, etc, in their teams. You really need to read around a bit before making these assertions you know.

Quote: jdrocket "So, my assertion that Graham is one of the only players to walk into most super league clubs is true.'"

"I say it so it must be true" is always an interesting premise, I find.

Quote: jdrocket "Please, please don't think I am belittling the Saints academy or there record of buying in players. '"

No, of course not! When would a Wigan player belittle Saints' academy products? I would never have imagined such a thing.

Quote: jdrocket "If you had kept hold of Gleeson and Briers then that would have been two names from your current squad you could be proud of. '"

So far as Gleeson is concerned, you need to read up on your RL history mate. As for Briers, in his own words written in the RL press just a few weeks ago, he 'spat his dummy out' and left Saints because he didn't think he was getting the amount of game time he needed at the time he left. We haven't regretted it though because we got Longy. And Longy was much, much better than Briers. His loss, not ours!

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Quote: Noel Cleal "By the way the only players not to resigned or confirmed leaving are...

Jamie Ellis
Shaun Maggenis
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Gareth Frodsham

I can't see all of these players getting released especially Maggenis.'"


I can see them all being released myself.

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Quote: MacBlondie "I can see them all being released myself.'"

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Quote: jdrocket "You haven't really answered the question (of sorts) how many of those players do you think would be SNAPPED UP by the top eight?'"


I would say that the only doubt amongst our front seventeen would be Gidley because of his age. After him I think that every single one our them, including Gardner, would get interest from at least one top eight team. To put it into perspective, every single one of our pack would get a spot in the Wire front seventeen and we'd probably even have three hookers that would get in there (including the retiring KC).

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Quote: jdrocket "If you took your red V specs off, you might agree with me.
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These are players with potential but don't trick yourself into believing these are star players that every team is jealous of. '"
You see, you argue every point as if from an unbiased veiw, but there's certain points that, for me, make it seem like you've got a bit of a downer on us.

This bit for me gives you away
Quote: jdrocket "Perry- Don't know much. What i do know he is an ageing aussie. Who so far is not well indorsed. Saints have a way of making good on this sort of deal and in a couple of seasons would maybe be snapped up by "nearly every" team. ATM too much of a liablity to risk.'"
Perry is 29, which pretty much anyone would agree is a great age for a prop. He is an Aussie international and has played SOO this year. He's also won grand finals with 2 clubs down under.
Now, if you go on each of the boards here and ask the supporters if they'd be happy to swap one of their senior props for someone of that pedigree, i'm sure 9/10 of them would say yes.

Sia soliola is a 24 year old Kiwi international. I'm pretty sure we weren't his only option when we signed him and if you reckon that players like Pryce and Wellens wouldn't be welcome at pretty much any club in the league the you're kidding yourself. Senton's been mentioned, If you ask wigan and leeds fans whether (issues like wages aside) they'd like to swap him for Carmont, Delaney or Senior, I think the majority would answer yes.

FWIW the days of players being snapped up and having a queue of suiter clubs has been finished by the slalry cap, but ask the species if they'd swap one of their current squad members then its an easier answer.

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