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Quote: Div "I'm not sure. Clearly those clubs have a track record of turning out quality lads in numbers over a long period of time. You would hope that if the pro clubs have quality scouting that they would look at all clubs to identify talent. I guess to a degree the talent will gravitate to the stronger clubs. I think if players are poached on the suggestion that they have more chance of being spotted at a certain club its a bit dodgy but I'm not close enough to say whether that goes on or not to any degree.

Strangely Wigan St Patricks gave a game away to Blackbrook recently on the basis they couldn't raise a team as did Oldham St Annes and Leigh East - the latter were top of Division 1 at the time all very odd. As a result Blackbrook are Division 1 Champions following the controversial relegation from the Premier Division last season for non fulfillment of a fixture against Pilkingtons based around there being no warm water for showers !'"


Was that at pilkingtons? I remember playing Pilks at under 18s yeaaaars ago and there was no warm water then! We had to get cold showers! Youd think after all these years they would have managed to get hot water running icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Div "I'm not sure. Clearly those clubs have a track record of turning out quality lads in numbers over a long period of time. You would hope that if the pro clubs have quality scouting that they would look at all clubs to identify talent. I guess to a degree the talent will gravitate to the stronger clubs. I think if players are poached on the suggestion that they have more chance of being spotted at a certain club its a bit dodgy but I'm not close enough to say whether that goes on or not to any degree.

Strangely Wigan St Patricks gave a game away to Blackbrook recently on the basis they couldn't raise a team as did Oldham St Annes and Leigh East - the latter were top of Division 1 at the time all very odd. As a result Blackbrook are Division 1 Champions following the controversial relegation from the Premier Division last season for non fulfillment of a fixture against Pilkingtons based around there being no warm water for showers !'"


That's what I was alluding to. I know of one player (a Wigan fan and season ticket holder icon_wink.gif ) who was playing at U14 for a Wigan based club who was told he would have a far better chance of being "spotted" if he moved to a much more famous Wigan amateur club.
He stood by his club and carried on playing with his mates. He eventually signed pro terms but not with Wigan. That was a few years ago by the way.

I have heard a similar story regarding two St. Helens based amateur clubs and the lad doing exactly the same and not signing for Saints. I'll fill you in with the details over the weekend at the hotel.

At a recent Wigan fans forum, the issue was raised by someone from the Chorley area regarding scouting outside the big two amateur clubs in Wigan.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Excellent call. For years the amateur clubs have got very little back from the pro clubs. I've always advocated that the pro players should, as part of their contract should be given an amateur team to be associated with, and help to coach.

Can you imagine for example a young player telling his mates James Roby (or Joel Tomkins) is helping with our team this year. Do you think it would help bring other kids into that side. I'm sure it would.'"


All the Wigan squad would have to take just a fortnight each at St Pats. And that's it really.

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Mike Rush was at Blackbrook. Thats why the likes of Scott Moore left Leigh Miners. Ste Bannister left Orrell, Andrew Dixon left Cross fields etc.....

Believe it or not but Bold are now our feeder club.

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Quote: Div "I'm not sure. Clearly those clubs have a track record of turning out quality lads in numbers over a long period of time. You would hope that if the pro clubs have quality scouting that they would look at all clubs to identify talent. I guess to a degree the talent will gravitate to the stronger clubs. I think if players are poached on the suggestion that they have more chance of being spotted at a certain club its a bit dodgy but I'm not close enough to say whether that goes on or not to any degree.

Strangely Wigan St Patricks gave a game away to Blackbrook recently on the basis they couldn't raise a team as did Oldham St Annes and Leigh East - the latter were top of Division 1 at the time all very odd. As a result Blackbrook are Division 1 Champions following the controversial relegation from the Premier Division last season for non fulfillment of a fixture against Pilkingtons based around there being no warm water for showers !'"


One of the reasons blackbrook and St pats have more players that go on to be pro players for the likes of saints and Wigan is because these kids parents know the kids have better chance of being picked up at these clubs, hence all the better kids sign for likes of blackbrook and St pats.

When I was a kid we moved to widnes, I was 10, my dad drove me to blackbrook every Tuesday, Thursday and sunday. When I asked why I can't play with my new widnes friends at widnes tigers , he replied you got better chance of signing for saints at blackbrook.

The ironic thing was saints never come knocking but I signed for widnes!

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