Im minded of Sean Longs comments in his book.
Always turn down the 1st contract offer.

Kyle knows he is in a strong position and lets be honest Saints 1st offer is probably a test the water offer.

They will have an amount they can afford and Kyle and his agent will have an amount that they desire.

I expect Saints to come back later next year with a better offer. Probably not as much as Kyle would dream of, but a decent one.

There is also my opinion that all this rumour mongering, a lot of which is coming from Wigan fans, is merely an attempt to unsettle the player and turn Saints fans against him. So that he can then go to pastures new. Wigan being the dream ticket for these people.

As for Mugwump saying Saints have been daft, well they havent because Matty Smith is still at the club, he is a fine and proven half back, not as exciting as Kyle but competent, and as good as most in SL.
He will be on a month to month contract at Salford so if Kyle decides to leave then Saints can bring Matty back.

You see, thats the big difference in Union. There isnt really as much need for an organiser and nor is there one. Even the position you would think would be ideal for organiser, a fly half, is just a glorified centre. They certainly dont have players leading them around the field in the same way someone like Long did for St helens.

and which team did you play for?

Stratford upon Avon and South Warwickshire District as a teen.

ahh thought you might have meant round the NW area as I played for a few years

I disagree. The fly half is the organiser and decision maker. To pass or to kick (invariably the latter)
But what type of kick, long, chip box, up and under etc.

As much as I don't like Johny Wilkinson as a Rugby player you cannot deny that he led England around the field in exactly the same way as our half backs do.