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Where do people get this idea from that Catalans where boring ? They always played off the cuff under Potter from what i seen!

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I wondered how long it would be...!!

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Quote: .Alice. "I wondered how long it would be...!!'"


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Quote: Billinge_Lump "Shame our first choice 7 wasn't up to producing that kind of quality at all this season though. A situation that had nothing to do with Potter...'"

How do you know?

I'm not saying that it was anything to do with Potter but I'd like to know how you can assert that it wasn't. Unless you join the lads in their training sessions and such like?

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Quote: SaintsFan "Catalans were a big pack, and still are a big pack, and are known for going up the middle.'"


Only away from home, when playing in france they are consistently more creative and play with considerably more flare.

Their hand is forced somewhat away from home. Teams traditionally are required to play much more defensive, not just in RL.

Quote: SaintsFan "We are not a big pack and we are not as effective going up the middle.'"


At the start of the year our forward line would have consisted of Graham, Cayless, Fas'avalu, Hargreaves/Puletua and Cunningham, thats a pretty big pack if you ask me.

Our hand was forced when by losing Cayless and Fas'avalu early in the year for a large part of the comp, and though Puletua is big enough for the front line and has chipped in, for me, he has more impact in the 2nd row. Add to this the fact that Hargreaves has about as much impact at prop as a bug on a car windshield and you begin to understand why we have struggled playing it up the middle this season.

What I feel has hurt us this year is that when we have taken the ball up the middle or ability to offload has completely disappeared, this was something that set the two teams apart in the final and to a degree in the semi too. Unfortunately Cayless was perhaps our best exponent of this art in our pack.

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Quote: Tony Stark "Their hand is forced somewhat away from home. Teams traditionally are required to play much more defensive, not just in RL.'"

Well, I've only seen them playing away as I've yet to afford a visit to their place (unfortunately, as I'd love to go).

Quote: Tony Stark "What I feel has hurt us this year is that when we have taken the ball up the middle or ability to offload has completely disappeared, this was something that set the two teams apart in the final and to a degree in the semi too. Unfortunately Cayless was perhaps our best exponent of this art in our pack.'"

I think this was more what I was thinking of, rather than simply size. They are generally a bigger group of players physically than Saints but also they seem to make real progress when they go forward because their pack appears to do stuff with the ball. So perhaps I should have added more effective along with bigger.

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