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Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Widnes in and Celtic out. Enough said.
this HAS to happen,there is a lot of things that need soting out now-heads MUST roll for this..................

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Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg



Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Well I'd like to see super league rugby in Widnes as they deserve it, plain and simple and meet the RFL criteria. They'd have the 7th or 8th best supported team in the comp above/equal the likes of Salford, Wakefield, Harlequins, Huddersfield and Castleford.'"

Fine. And maybe Widnes will get in next time around. That doesn't mean to say Celtic Crusaders will or should not be in Superleague. They have two more years at top flight. If they come through this debacle unscathed and if they recruit wisely (they certainly have more time than last time) then if they meet the criteria they shouldn't be ejected from Superleague just to let Widnes in.

Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Fact is that expansion is great in principle but NOT at the expnse and possibly survival of established well supported clubs in the heartlands.'"

I'm quite sure all clubs in the heartlands would consider themselves justified to take up a Superleague spot, if only because they've been around since the year dot. But that isn't feasible unless we go back to the old system of one league. So there has to be some distinguishing criteria and if there are heartlands clubs - well followed or not - who don't meet that criteria then they cannot be in Superleague.

Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Gateshead - Failed
Paris - Failed
Catalans - success (Rugby league hotbed as people have said) '"

Gateshead is still going. I could have sworn I sat watching Saints play them just a couple of months ago.

Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Is there anything to suggest at all that a team in a non heartland area and with a low density of population in Celtic's case can sustain a SL standard team? No I don't think there is.'"

Return to me in two more years and let's see whether what you say is justified.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SaintsFan "Fine. And maybe Widnes will get in next time around. That doesn't mean to say Celtic Crusaders will or should not be in Superleague. They have two more years at top flight. If they come through this debacle unscathed and if they recruit wisely (they certainly have more time than last time) then if they meet the criteria they shouldn't be ejected from Superleague just to let Widnes in.


I'm quite sure all clubs in the heartlands would consider themselves justified to take up a Superleague spot, if only because they've been around since the year dot. But that isn't feasible unless we go back to the old system of one league. So there has to be some distinguishing criteria and if there are heartlands clubs - well followed or not - who don't meet that criteria then they cannot be in Superleague.


Gateshead is still going. I could have sworn I sat watching Saints play them just a couple of months ago.


Return to me in two more years and let's see whether what you say is justified.'"


They have just been re-named

Now known as the North Queensland Thunder icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Starbug "They have just been re-named

Now known as the North Queensland Thunder You stalking me?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SaintsFan "You stalking me?'"


Do you want to be stalked ? icon_lol.gif

Just perusing some of the club boards now that things have settled down on the VT and the Celtic boards

The issue with the use of these players is not what has happened in SL this year or wether they should remain in SL next year , the answers to those questions are

Not a lot and yes they should

The issue is that they have had a potential massive effect on clubs in the NL's

They have denied a club promotion to NL 1 in 2007 and they have also denied a NL1 club from qualifying to apply to SL in 2011

Just imagine how the fans of the club finishing 3 rd last year in NL 1 feel at this moment , They would have made the 2007 NL 1 GF which would have allowed them already to be preparing a SL application

The implications of that are huge

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Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too. Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ancient & Royal wrote.... "You are proud to be associated with that dis-organised band of mercenaries? I am ashamed to be a Wigan fan hell yes, what have we got to be un-ashamed about? We are a joke, a laughing stock, we are NOTHING, why cant people understand!":11659.jpg



Quote: SaintsFan "Fine. And maybe Widnes will get in next time around. That doesn't mean to say Celtic Crusaders will or should not be in Superleague. They have two more years at top flight. If they come through this debacle unscathed and if they recruit wisely (they certainly have more time than last time) then if they meet the criteria they shouldn't be ejected from Superleague just to let Widnes in.


I'm quite sure all clubs in the heartlands would consider themselves justified to take up a Superleague spot, if only because they've been around since the year dot. But that isn't feasible unless we go back to the old system of one league. So there has to be some distinguishing criteria and if there are heartlands clubs - well followed or not - who don't meet that criteria then they cannot be in Superleague.


Gateshead is still going. I could have sworn I sat watching Saints play them just a couple of months ago.


Return to me in two more years and let's see whether what you say is justified.'"


Gateshead is a re-formed club, the original Thunder were absorbed by Hull, read your SL history, same as Sheffield with Huddersfield.

Widnes do meet the Criteria, they were denied by their recent financial history and yet Richard Lewis had promised them that it would not go against them. He went back on his word, fact.

Also Celtic were promoted from NL2 to NL1 on false pretenses as they had some of those now deported/banned players in that side that came up in 2007 to play in NL1 in 2008.
In case you didn't know you had to be in NL1 to apply so by definition they should be kicked out the comp as they would not have been in a position in 2008 to even submit a SL licence application, let alone have it accepted. eusa_naughty.gif

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