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| 211 appearances - 743 points - 127 tries
4 Championships 96,99,00 & 02
3 CC 96,97 & 01 & WCC medal
Oh and one wonder pass against Wigan
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| How many England / GB caps?
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"How many England / GB caps?'"
He was Irish, everyoen knows that bit.... 
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"I think you're wrong.
Tommy Martyn was a great player. I'd have loved to see him at Wigan.
Edwards was a better player though, and for whoever it was to suggest that Long and Martyn were the best halfback pairing ever is, well, appallingly inaccurate.'"
Wiganers are bound to say that Edwards/Gregory were better than Long/Martyn and vice versa - it's the Radlinski vs Wellens argument all over again.
BTW, I love it when anybody dares disagree with a Wiganer over RL, you [i ALWAYS[/i know that persons opinion will always be branded as "rubbish", "foolish" etc or in your particular case you have used the phrase "appallingly inaccurate". You can see it coming a mile off.
HTH.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"How many England / GB caps?'"
And your point is ?
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| Quote Badwanger="Badwanger"Wiganers are bound to say that Edwards/Gregory were better than Long/Martyn and vice versa - it's the Radlinski vs Wellens argument all over again.
BTW, I love it when anybody dares disagree with a Wiganer over RL, you [iALWAYS[/i know that persons opinion will always be branded as "rubbish", "foolish" etc or in your particular case you have used the phrase "appallingly inaccurate". You can see it coming a mile off.
HTH.'"
Well, where players are comparable, then yes you will get that argument. Of course you will.
But in the case of Edwards/Gregory v Long/Martyn, it's blindingly obvious that Edwards/Gregory are far superior. Only someone biased towards Saints would disagree. Either that,or someone who never saw Edwards/Gregory, which I suspect you haven't. YOu can't possibly have if you think Long and Martyn are better.
If you want to compare, say, Van Vollenhoven and Boston, or Farrell and Sculthorpe, then yes we can argue all day long. That's fine.
But in the case of the thread subject here, then there is no argument. You may as well compare fillet steak with rump roast.
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"
But in the case of the thread subject here, then there is no argument. You may as well compare fillet steak with rump roast.'"
For Long and Martyn to do what they with such "heavyweights" as Atcheson, Haigh, Smith, Goldspink, Hammond, Davidson, Pickavance, Edmondson, Jonkers, Stewart, Stankevitch, Hall, Henare, West and Ward around them, made their achievements as a half-back partnership all the more remarkable.
Shall we compare that to the Wigan teams who surrounded Gregory and Edwards?
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Not true.
I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley, and neither did any GB/ England coach.
Now, you can accuse me of bias (which of course I'm not) but how do you explain the others?
Leon Pryce is by far a better player than Martyn ever was.'"
Pryce is good but not in same league as tommy
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Not sure about Harris. At his peak, he was an absolutely terriffic player.'"
Harris was best 6 to play super league.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Harris was best 6 to play super league.'"
Harris as a young gun was un-stoppable, hated him at Leeds as you couldnt stop the mucker....we did right not takign him though and getting Scully.
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| Quote Badwanger="Badwanger"For Long and Martyn to do what they with such "heavyweights" as Atcheson, Haigh, Smith, Goldspink, Hammond, Davidson, Pickavance, Edmondson, Jonkers, Stewart, Stankevitch, Hall, Henare, West and Ward around them, made their achievements as a half-back partnership all the more remarkable.
Shall we compare that to the Wigan teams who surrounded Gregory and Edwards?'"
You can if you want. Edwards and Gregory played together in the late 80s, when the only superstars we had were Hanley and possibly Joe Lydon. The other players were people we brought through the ranks, like Brian Case, Shaun Wane and what have you, or people who were playing at lower clubs (or union clubs) and had potential, like David Stephenson, Steve Hampson and Andy Goodway. People like Offiah, Miles etc came a lot later.
It further blows your argument out of the water when you exclude players from your list like Sculthorpe, Martin Gleeson, Shiels, Chris Joynt, Darren Albert. There were many more superstars in Long/Martyn's team than there were Edwards/Gregory's.
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