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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"YES........I am not defending him, I am just highlighting there are other factors involved. The team players and coach seem to have accepted his erratic involvement.
Through his own or players fault he doesn,t get enough passes to make any decent carries, through his own or coaches fault he doesn,t play enough minutes.
Our squad is not good enough to drop him, yet as a club we don,t seem want to fix it, with this individual player management the club are just as bad as Mose himself.'"
Let's just say up until our injuries im pretty sure mose wouldn't have been in the 17 every week. Read into that as you wise but I'll be surprised if he finishes the season as a starting player in our 17.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Let's just say up until our injuries im pretty sure mose wouldn't have been in the 17 every week. Read into that as you wise but I'll be surprised if he finishes the season as a starting player in our 17.'"
That's upto Mose himself really. The frustrating thing with Masoe is at times he can be a brilliant gamechanger for us. Of all the players in the squad his performances level fluctuate the most.
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| He was a disgrace last night. I won't be sad to him to go.
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| People call Lance but Mose has been a huge flop. He offers nothing. I'd be happy if we let him go and free some money up on the cap.
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| If you people honestly believe a guy as hard-headed as Keiron wouldn't drop Mose in a HEARTBEAT if he didn't think he was performing - you don't know Keiron.
He's dropped Lance.
He's dropped Jones.
He was instrumental in booting Gaskell.
Ditto Foster.
He even dropped Wello, a guy who he KNOWS will die for the club.
We aren't THAT short in the forwards he can't afford to drop Mose. He hasn't.
Explain that.
Oh, I forgot. You can't.

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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"If you people honestly believe a guy as hard-headed as Keiron wouldn't drop Mose in a HEARTBEAT if he didn't think he was performing - you don't know Keiron.
He's dropped Lance.
He's dropped Jones.
He was instrumental in booting Gaskell.
Ditto Foster.
He even dropped Wello, a guy who he KNOWS will die for the club.
We aren't THAT short in the forwards he can't afford to drop Mose. He hasn't.
Explain that.
Oh, I forgot. You can't.
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Kieron's human and makes mistakes and poor judgement, like some posters on here.
He's probably hoping and praying that maybe, just maybe he might fulfil just a tiny bit of the bags of potential that he has.
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| Quote Twentyman="Twentyman"Kieron's human and makes mistakes and poor judgement, like some posters on here.
He's probably hoping and praying that maybe, just maybe he might fulfil just a tiny bit of the bags of potential that he has.'"
Thats the problem we know the potential is there but we can,t extract it, be it by Mose himself or team play, is KC trying to work out the right formula.
Mose is a proven NRL and International player and allegidally wanted by 4 NRL clubs, they are obviously seeing something that our club can,t extract.
Have the club or himself allowed him to be "a big kid in a pub team" performer.
It would be interesting if Wane coached pur pack for a couple of weeks would we see a better Mose Masoe.
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| Quote Twentyman="Twentyman"Kieron's human and makes mistakes and poor judgement, like some posters on here.
He's printbly that maybe, just maybe he might fulfil just a tiny bit of the bags of potential that he has.'"
Ah, I see - it's Keiron's sense of misguided sentimentality.
Or better still - he's frightened that Mose might beat him up if he tells him off!
Trouble is - if there were trophy for the most my-way-or-the-highway individual at the club Cunningham would win at a canter. Throughout his career Keiron has repeatedly demonstrated a ruthless streak when it comes to his own interests.
If you bothered to pay any attention to his behaviour with some of the kids you know this and wouldn't strain credulity propagating such baseless twaddle.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"If you people honestly believe a guy as hard-headed as Keiron wouldn't drop Mose in a HEARTBEAT if he didn't think he was performing - you don't know Keiron.
He's dropped Lance.
He's dropped Jones.
He was instrumental in booting Gaskell.
Ditto Foster.
He even dropped Wello, a guy who he KNOWS will die for the club.
We aren't THAT short in the forwards he can't afford to drop Mose. He hasn't.
Explain that.
Oh, I forgot. You can't.
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I know KC very very well mate. Mose is on borrowed time at the moment and if it wasn't for the likes of vea and greenwood being out im pretty sure he'd be out the 17.
KC had nothing to do with Gaskell and Foster leaving saints. Absolutely nothing!!
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"If you bothered to pay any attention to his behaviour with some of the kids you know this and wouldn't strain credulity propagating such baseless twaddle.'"
Hahaha, have you swallowed a thesaurus Mugwump? I personally think there's a time and place to apply the fancy vocabulary. You're obviously trying to strengthen your argument and at the same time, patronise a fellow poster (me). I can't be bothered rising to it.
Back to the discussion, Cunningham is new in the job. He knows what Mose is capable of, like we all do and I imagine (I'm propagating here) giving him more '2nd chances' than he would probably give someone else.
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