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| Sadfish,check out "Sun & Moon" or "Alone Tonight" by Above & Beyond both these contains vocals by Beax, both leave shivers down my spine even though heard many many times
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| Yep, very good vocals.
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| Quote: Sadfish "So you done the singing? I noticed another of the video with singing by the same person had like 6 million hits was that you too?'" yeh that was an earlier track mate.. I am guessing you mean Sun & Moon which was 2011.
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| My favourite DAW is Cubase. It's the one I started using and the one I find easiest to navigate.
If you're recording voice and acoustic guitar I'd definitely go for a condenser mic rather than a dynamic one like the SM58. Something like the Rode NT1A is a decent entry level condenser.
The most important thing is the room you use and its acoustic properties. Get this wrong and even the best gear will sound crap.
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| Don't forget Rock God that if they are using a condenser mic they will need an audio card capable of phantom power! ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) To help sort out room acoustics you can buy fairly inexpensive "reflection" filters. The original ones from SE Electronics were a bit pricey but you can get a few different ones now and they are quite useful.
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| Quote: beax "Don't forget Rock God that if they are using a condenser mic they will need an audio card capable of phantom power!
Yes, of course, phantom power is a must! Was going to mention the reflexion filters myself, but with the caveat that they're only successful if the room isn't too bad to begin with.
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| Well, yes and no.. kind of depends what you are after but you can largely get some pretty good "deadish" results with them and breathe life in the production. Getting a good sounding room is more inportant I recon in the mixing phase when things can become misleading.
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| Quote: beax "Well, yes and no.. kind of depends what you are after but you can largely get some pretty good "deadish" results with them and breathe life in the production.'"
The ones I've used seem to be fine in a room that's not too 'fluttery', but not so effective in a very echoey room. They're good, but not miracle workers. That said, I have only used the lower end ones, so the professional ones may be a lot better.
Quote: beax "Getting a good sounding room is more inportant I recon in the mixing phase when things can become misleading.'"
You could be right. I'd tend to err towards it being equally important in both instances. Sh*t in, sh*t out, as they say.
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| #ive often used an se2200 and an sm58 to record vocals and done a slight pan gives a nice mix, but also my studio live room has an area of wood floor that just gives a little natural reverb, meaning i need to do less in the mix.
Its horses for courses though.
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| Quote: beax "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v
I'm not a fan of club music at all but that section from 3:17 to 3:50 is the kind I really like.
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Ressurecting a thread for a bit of a plug. Self recorded and produced single available for download by us.
www.susiejones.net
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Ressurecting a thread for a bit of a plug. Self recorded and produced single available for download by us.
www.susiejones.net
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| hey!
don't know if this thread is still active but thought i'd throw in my two pennies for how to record at home..
im a 2nd year Music Student at university doing tech and composition.
first off sort out an interface, i currently have the Roland Quad Capture which has an auto-sense function making setting levels rather easy. it isn't firewire but then it doesn't really have to be as it won't lag on two channels.
i use Logic Pro 9 at the moment. fair enough it cost my 170 quid but it was money well spent, although it can be a little daunting it is really easy to use but not that user friendly to 'newbies' to the recording game.
i then have a choice of microphones, an sm58 for general recording ideas, a Rode NT1-A which is really nice at capturing mid to high frequencies but doesn't bottom out that well. i finally have a SE2200 which i use for vocals as it has a brilliant overall range of frequency response.
I have a MIDI controller Keyboard which is just a simple Korg Micro-Key, this does my just right for recording simple patch based ideas.
for monitors i use the M-Audio BX5 D2's which need TRS cables to balance them. these work brilliantly and, whilst they aren't the glamourous KRK's, are still a good basic monitoring active pair at around 140 pound.
there may be a little 'cavalier' attitude by some as to how this and that should be done when recording say an acoustic guitar but the only way you will know for sure is by practicing microphone placement. it isn't as simple as just throwing a microphone in front of the sound source and expecting it to pick up all the right frequencies that you want to make it sound a particular way. there are countless things to consider when recordings. do you want the recording to sound intimate? i.e. like someone playing in a bedroom? you will want a close mic effect and lots of absorbent material in the room thats being used as the live room etc. if you are recording an amplified guitar then you will need to understand room Nodes and the ways that sound waves propagate through a space at certain frequencies to find the best place for one of the microphones etc.
all in all there are many ways to record a vocal, guitar, bass, drums, piano etc but the only way to find the best way is through experimentation. every 'rule' that is thrown out there by people can instantly be broken by an example that completely contradicts the rule…so just experiment… and have good gear
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| Quote: Jakjtb "and have good gear
I was with you until this point. We've recorded with a music student using top of the range equiment and got better sounds using SM57s and SM58s because he didn't consider how to use them for that right sound for us.
Equipment will only help you so far. Like you say, experiment. We just did some work with a stomp box. Eventually we progressed from working on the floor with a food to placing it on a small wooden table, wrapped in a towel with masking tape over where our knuckles were hitting it.
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| 58s and 57s are okay depending on what you are recording, if you are recording drums then fair enough as you don't really need that much clarity in higher frequencies. I would highly suggest trying a condenser for future works and then spend time learning mixing techniques so that your mixes sound better. It's a huge area of music to get into but it's learnable.
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