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Quote: Durham Giant "I am guesing the character you are talking about was the one at the end.

He is not dead. Where do you think Melisandre was going at the end. To save the one true king !

Try to keep up at the back.

Although there are some deviations from the books they are mainly to avoid bringing too many new characters in.

The key characters are there. The film producers as well as Martin know exactly where this is going.

Ye of little faith.'"

rlDavid Nutter begs to differ.rl No way any character could survive 6 or 7 12" knife stabs to the chest, Melisandre or no Melisandre.

Anyway, which truly key characters are still there, apart from (top of my head), dragon lady, her entourage, the dwarf, possibly that young Stark girl, and erm...yeah...?

At this point the only characters I have any emotional attachment to are the dwarf and dragon lady's long suffering lovelorn bodyguard chap. I care little for anyone left on Westeros, in fact I'm even starting to root for the white walkers.

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Quote: Cronus "rlDavid Nutter begs to differ.rl No way any character could survive 6 or 7 12" knife stabs to the chest, Melisandre or no Melisandre.

Anyway, which truly key characters are still there, apart from (top of my head), dragon lady, her entourage, the dwarf, possibly that young Stark girl, and erm...yeah...?

At this point the only characters I have any emotional attachment to are the dwarf and dragon lady's long suffering lovelorn bodyguard chap. I care little for anyone left on Westeros, in fact I'm even starting to root for the white walkers.'"


Just did a long post and lost it . cannot be d writing it again.

But in the interview you quote above Nutter does say i am a director and i direct what script i am given. So if he comes back he comes back,.

I would also argue that many of the best characters are still in the show
Tyrion, litlefinger, cersei jamie vaerys etc.
I am looking forward to Theon's redemption.

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Quote: Cronus ".]rl] No way any character could survive 6 or 7 12" knife stabs to the chest, Melisandre or no Melisandre.

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My answer to that would be rewatch Season 3, around episodes 5 or 6 IIRC.

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Quote: Willzay "My answer to that would be rewatch Season 3, around episodes 5 or 6 IIRC.'"


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Quote: Cronus "rlDavid Nutter begs to differ.rl No way any character could survive 6 or 7 12" knife stabs to the chest, Melisandre or no Melisandre.'"


You are missing something - there's more than one character who appears dead, but may still play a part...

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Whether certain characters return from the dead, or not, the fact remains that this recent series was a pretty shoddy effort and the tactic of the occasional shock scene, or odd dramatic twist in the storyline, dragged the programme to the level of soap opera.

I maintain that the introduction of new characters is simply a cynical ploy to drag out the franchise - Also the complete disappearance of other characters is a complete joke.... Disabled Stark fella and his entourage??, that lad out of the Inbetweeners??

I'm all for a complex tale, but constantly introducing new characters while leaving old ones in limbo, smacks of the writers not having much of a clue how to end the whole thing.

Unless there is some progress to the story and some indication of a light at the end of the tunnel, then I think people will begin to leave the series in droves, leaving just the nerds who spend all their time discussing various GoT theories online (How sad are those guys?? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif ).

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Quote: Durham Giant "But in the interview you quote above Nutter does say i am a director and i direct what script i am given. So if he comes back he comes back.'"
Quote: Durham Giant "My answer to that would be rewatch Season 3, around episodes 5 or 6 IIRC.'"
Quote: Durham Giant "You are missing something - there's more than one character who appears dead, but may still play a part...'"

Fair enough, and I accept this is a fantasy series, anything could happen and he could come back with striking aplomb and a leaky chest.

But going back to the original point, the constant killing-off of key characters to be replaced with barely-known new faces has diminished my enjoyment (and many others, from what I read) considerably by removing much of my emotional engagement.

I hope it starts to recover, the last series was a bit lame imo.

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Quote: Cronus "But going back to the original point, the constant killing-off of key characters to be replaced with barely-known new faces has diminished my enjoyment (and many others, from what I read) considerably by removing much of my emotional engagement.'"


This is however, with some variation, largely how it was written by the author; he seems to lack any sentimentality for his main characters and kills them off with impunity if it fits his story.

I would broadly agree though - the most recent season wasn't particularly engaging; feels like they've trod water a bit to let him catch up.

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Quote: bren2k "This is however, with some variation, largely how it was written by the author; he seems to lack any sentimentality for his main characters and kills them off with impunity if it fits his story.'"


While the author is ruthless in this sense, I'm sure he has some affection towards some of his characters. I read somewhere that he wrote the Red Wedding chapter after he'd completed all the other chapters in book 3, as it was painful for him to write it. He loved the characters that were killed off.


Quote: bren2k "I would broadly agree though - the most recent season wasn't particularly engaging; feels like they've trod water a bit to let him catch up.'"


I think in all likelihood HBO will finish Game of Thrones before Martin finishes his books. He writes slowly, and the show has already gone past the books and has changed some things completely. I tend to agree though. Season 5 was weaker than 4 for me, but I'm still looking forward to 6.

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I'm sure they will do a GoT prequal about the mad king etc when they have finished. I read somewhere there will be 8 series in total so a long way to go before we think about that!

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well it has turned into the best zombie tv series also

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This is the funniest programme to have appeared on the telly, ever!

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Bye bye Ramsay!

Season 6 has certainly been one of the best of the series, certainly making amends for the disastrous season 5.

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Ive really enjoyed it so far. Can't believe it the last episode on Monday. Heard the next two series only have 7 episodes??

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