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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "It was the story of a group of volunteer US airbourne troops and to my limited knowledge historically accurate and in my opinion far from jingoistic.
There is one scene where the US troops are sent to escort British Paratroopers from Arnem back to safety. The two commanders meet up at night and the US commander asks the British one where his troops are. The US guy is stunned as with a signal hundreds of British paratroopers emerge from all around. To me that was tribute to the skill and fieldcraft of the British forces that were within feet of the the US airbourne unit, who didn't even know they were there.
Ambrose had already written a book on UK Airbourne forces (Pegasus Bridge) and Band of Brothers was intended as telling the story of Airbourne forces contribution in WW2 from the US perspective.
For me it is one of the finest TV series ever.'"
Apparently and according to Ambrose... a US officer said of the above(British planned) operation you wouldn't want a limey in the trench next to you but they were bloody good planners.
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "It was the story of a group of volunteer US airbourne troops and to my limited knowledge historically accurate and in my opinion far from jingoistic.
There is one scene where the US troops are sent to escort British Paratroopers from Arnem back to safety. The two commanders meet up at night and the US commander asks the British one where his troops are. The US guy is stunned as with a signal hundreds of British paratroopers emerge from all around. To me that was tribute to the skill and fieldcraft of the British forces that were within feet of the the US airbourne unit, who didn't even know they were there.
Ambrose had already written a book on UK Airbourne forces (Pegasus Bridge) and Band of Brothers was intended as telling the story of Airbourne forces contribution in WW2 from the US perspective.
For me it is one of the finest TV series ever.'"
Maj John Howard was not very happy with the Pegasus Bridge book and even before Ambrose had it published.He requested that Ambrose make changes. Ambrose being the bloody know all would not make the changes and at a later date admitted he was wrong not to.
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| Quote: Johnny Drama "One of the finest things ever put to film for me. The book is also a thoroughly good read. I have watched The Pacific and enjoyed it although I have never felt inclined to re-watch it where as I re-watch BoB at least a couple of times a year.
If you haven't seen it watch out for early roles for such (now) Hollywood luminaries as Tom Hardy, Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy.'"
Do not forget Simon Pegg
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| Quote: JACK DETH "Do not forget Simon Pegg'"
And Damien Lewis
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| Quote: JACK DETH "Maj John Howard was not very happy with the Pegasus Bridge book and even before Ambrose had it published.He requested that Ambrose make changes. Ambrose being the bloody know all would not make the changes and at a later date admitted he was wrong not to.'"
Ambrose is one of the worst authors I've ever read. I think it is testimony to the skills of Spielberg & Hanks that they could actually see such a great series in reading the book
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| Quote: cod'ead "Ambrose is one of the worst authors I've ever read. I think it is testimony to the skills of Spielberg & Hanks that they could actually see such a great series in reading the book'"
Very true, was a great series and one I have watched many times. Still managed to get a couple of digs in though about the British didn't they? Hollywood just can't help itself can it?
I wish someone would do one from the commonwealth side of things or even a Russian one. Although, there is a new Stalingrad movie due to be released from a Russian movie company
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| Quote: JACK DETH "Very true, was a great series and one I have watched many times. Still managed to get a couple of digs in though about the British didn't they? Hollywood just can't help itself can it?
I wish someone would do one from the commonwealth side of things or even a Russian one. Although, there is a new Stalingrad movie due to be released from a Russian movie company'"
This year apparently . I'm going to tuck into a couple of Korean war movies this weekend I haven't seen yet . Assembly , The front line & 71 Into the fire.
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| Quote: B0NES "This year apparently . I'm going to tuck into a couple of Korean war movies this weekend I haven't seen yet . Assembly , The front line & 71 Into the fire.'"
Deffo seen Assembly and Front Line..I am pretty sure i have seen Into the Fire too. If so, it was a while ago but enjoyed them.
If you can get a yourself Come and See now that is a harrowing Russian Front movie
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| Quote: JACK DETH "Deffo seen Assembly and Front Line..I am pretty sure i have seen Into the Fire too. If so, it was a while ago but enjoyed them.
If you can get a yourself Come and See now that is a harrowing Russian Front movie'"
Aye , Seen it . Good movie that one.
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| In Oliver Stone's upcoming series "The Untold History of The United States", he reckons it's the Soviets we sould be thankful to for winning the war. Without their sacrifices, it's a good bet that Europe would've seen the first atom bomb
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| Quote: cod'ead "In Oliver Stone's upcoming series "The Untold History of The United States", he reckons it's the Soviets we sould be thankful to for winning the war. Without their sacrifices, it's a good bet that Europe would've seen the first atom bomb'"
Quite enjoying this series , Originally I thought this would be hard slog to watch but it has been quite fascinating and insightful.
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| Quote: B0NES "Quite enjoying this series , Originally I thought this would be hard slog to watch but it has been quite fascinating and insightful.'"
Yes, but it doesn't tell you anything you didn't already know. Does it Bones?
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| Quote: JACK DETH "Yes, but it doesn't tell you anything you didn't already know. Does it Bones?'"
Yes it does , Stone really going for the jugular in American history . He must be a red !
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| Quote: JACK DETH "Very true, was a great series and one I have watched many times. Still managed to get a couple of digs in though about the British didn't they? Hollywood just can't help itself can it?
I wish someone would do one from the commonwealth side of things or even a Russian one. Although, there is a new Stalingrad movie due to be released from a Russian movie company'"
I think it's potential profit (or lack of) and of course the film industry being dominated by the US that prevents a Commonwealth equivalent to BoB being made. I have seen a documentary on Pegasus Bridge featuring some of the veterans and that was very good.
I enjoyed BoB despite the annoying bits on the British. Can't remember if its ths series or saving Private Ryan but some of the British accents make Dick Van Dyke sound like a real Cockney in Mary Poppins.
I also read Ambrose's Pegasus Bridge and don't recall it being that bad (though comments about the para commander waning it changed are interesting) but I do seem to recall his view from somewhere the Brits were tired which I think is completely stupid given some of the actions in WWII such as Arnhem and Cassino. He is also of course ignoring the nightly suicide runs of Bomber Command which could hardly be characterised as timid.
One of my Uncle's fought in Italy and it was he who first told me the following well known anecdote:
When the British Artillery open up, the Germans take cover.
When the German Artillery opens up, the British take cover.
When the American Artillery opens up, everyone takes cover!
He wasn't just repeating an urban myth either. He wasn't very complimentary about the Yanks fighting ability.
Perhaps Ambrose should have stuck that in one of his books for a bit of balance!
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