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Well as it’s about as busy as the Marie Celeste here at the moment, I thought I’d post a thread for those of us who’ve seen a good few players wear the Blue and Amber. So, name your best 13 players by position that you’ve actually seen play for Leeds. That’s the only criteria, you must have seen them play for us. I go back to 1986/7, Here goes:

1. Iestyn Harris
2. Scott Donald
3. Garry Schofield
4. Keith Senior
5. Ryan Hall
6. Danny McGuire
7. Kevin Sinfield
8. Kylie Leuluai
9. Danny Buderus
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Adrian Morley
12. Ali Lauitiiti
13. Ellery Hanley

Far too many honourable mentions to mention.

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Not too dissimilar. Started watching in 98.

1. Harris
2. Donald
3.Watkins
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Prior
9. Buderus
10. Peacock
11. Lauitititi
12. Morley
13. Ellis

Hard to leave Burrow and Webb out.

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Tricky task, saw first game in 1972.
1. Hardaker
2. Hall
3. Schofield
4. Senior
5. Atkinson
6. Holmes
7. McGuire
8. Kylie
9. Ward
10. Peacock
11. Morley
12. Hanley
13. Sinfield

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1 - Harris
2 - Grothe
3 - Schofield
4 - Senior
5 - Hall
6 - Holmes
7 - Sinfield
8 - Crooks
9 - Ward
10 - Peacock
11- Morley
12 - Izzard
13- Hanley

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14 - Lauitiiti
15 - Maguire
16 - Leuluai
17 - McDermott

Very difficult task because we are lucky that Leeds always have outstanding players even when we havent had great teams. So many have to left out.

Full backs ET, Webb and Zak. All terrific. Iestyn was pure class under Graham Murray tho. So good. His step, so much time on the ball, top player.

How could i leave out Atky and Alan Smith on the wings? Well i only saw the back end of Atky before he left for Carlisle and Eric Grothe was a bit special for 16 games he was a superstar. Him and Hall on the wings would be frightening. Cummins, Sterling, Donald and Fallon served Leeds well.

One of the greatest centres ive ever seen for Leeds was Tony Currie he was sensational. A truly fantastic player but Schoey and Senior did it for longer. Les Dyl , Hague, Watkins and Moon all deserve a mention. Brad Godden was a super player too. Harry Newman has the potential to be up there if he continues to develop.

Leaving Robbie and Maggsy out in the halves was tough both incredible but in the history of Leeds RL Sir Kev and John Holmes are the top 2 for me. The 2 most important players in the clubs history. Kevin Dick, Coleman, Daryl Powell all served the club well.

Props, hard to leave out Tunks, Fleary, Prior, Dixon, Jeff Grayshon had a good year for us. I liked Faimalo too but Lee Crooks didnt want to be at Leeds and many judge him on that but he was a world class RL player, had it all. This country hasnt produced many better. What would Crooks have been like if he had wanted to play for us? JP nothing needs to said, a collosus, a true Leeds RL hall of fame player. In future years Mikolaj could be pushing this team.

Hooker i supppose Terry Newton, Jackson, Disko and Buderus are only ones that could get near David Ward. The hooking role has changed over the years but when i watch games from 70s and early 80s everytime i think Wardy was only one that i wish we had in the modern game. He was tough, industrious and quality. Great leader and player.

Had to leave out Gareth Ellis and Roy Powell in the second row plus Ablett and JJB of course. All 4 was outstanding for Leeds. Phil Cookson and Graham Eccles also. The young Morley we had was like a runaway horse. An all time great. What a player. Craig Izzard in his 1st stint at Leeds was incredible. Its difficult cos some was outstanding over 1 short stint from Australia and some brilliant over a longer period. How do you choose?

Loose forward, well Dave Heron was a classy footballer. Marc Glanville wasnt quite so classy was he? Hard as nails tho. Ellery though i mean what can you say? A giant of the sport. To watch him play every week was eye opening, jaw dropping and beyond belief to be honest. Ive never seen anyone like him. If he had played his whole career at Leeds or maybe just 4 or 5 years longer he would the greatest in the clubs history. I never knew how good he was til i saw him week in and week out.

I picked a balanced bench, half, 2 props and a 2nd row. Ali Lau was just brilliant, Maggsy a legend, Kylie served us for a long time and Barrie Mc was always fun.

So many ive missed out, i know. Apologises to those.

We have been very lucky.

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1 Harris
2 Bai
3 Schofield
4 Senior (I tried, but I couldn't quite justify Brad Godden)
5 Hall
6 Sinfield
7 McGuire
8 Leuluai
9 Buderus
10 Peacock
11 Morley
12 Ellis
13 Hanley (c)

14 Burrow
15 Lauiti'iti
16 Prior
17 Ablett

Coach - this isn't a project of the type which would suit Tony Smith although I'm sure he could do it. It might more suited to McDermott, possibly to Douggie (although the changing room might be a bloodbath) and definitely to Bluey. But let's be honest Graham Murray is the man for the job here.

Close calls: Glanville just loses out to Ellis because we don't need Glanville's seniority here and there should be enough aggression elsewhere whilst Ellis offers more in attack; Goulding misses out to McGuire/Burrow because of longevity, Godden and Innes to Senior likewise, Fallon and Donald to Bai for Bai's sheer physical presence. I thought about Izzard and ET but just couldn't justify them being in based on short Leeds careers.

It's a mythical team of course. In reality I think Harris/Schofield/Sinfield/McGuire/Buderus/Hanley/Burrow would either be the most amazing thing ever or they'd all just be trying to take control and it would be chaos.

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In 10 years Time hopefully we’ll be saying

1. Walker
2. Donald
3. Broadbent
4, Newman
5. Hall
6. Burrow
7.J.Sinfield !!!
8. Mik
9. Leeming
10. Holroyd
11. Bentley
12. Grannon
13. K Sinfield

Here’s hoping!

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Been watching since the winter of 79 so while I saw and worshipped the likes of Holmes, Atky, Smith, Dyl, Eccles and Ward they were all past their prime years. Ultimately I've gone largely with players who had me on the edge of my seat every time they touched the ball. Don't know about everybody else but prop was the one I really struggled with. McDermott (I was tempted to go for Prior) had me tearing my hair out for large parts of his career but he must have been a scary prospect for the opposition when focused. Darren Fleary just impotimised the Murray vintage of 98/99. Loved watching him play.
1) Harris
2) Grothe
3) Schofield
4) Currie
5) Hall
6) McGuire
7) Sinfield
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9) Buderus
10) Peacock
11) Izzard
12) Morley
13) Hanley
SUBS
McDermott
Fleary
Ali
Burrow

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Tony Currie was a phenomenal player wasnt he Big A? I really wanted to put in him. Nobody really talks about him but in both attack and defence he was brilliant. Came to Leeds a little known Queenslander and went on to play Origin and Test football.

One of the best players ive seen at Leeds. I had to go with Schoey and Beefy tho kust for longevity reasons.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Tony Currie was a phenomenal player wasnt he Big A? I really wanted to put in him. Nobody really talks about him but in both attack and defence he was brilliant. Came to Leeds a little known Queenslander and went on to play Origin and Test football.

One of the best players ive seen at Leeds. I had to go with Schoey and Beefy tho kust for longevity reasons.'"

He certainly was. Great acceleration off the mark and superb balance. We've had a few good uns from Oz in the centre. Mark McGaw was hard as nails and ET was all class.

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Grew up watching York with my Dad in the 80's - when they had a decent team and dined at the top table.
Started following Leeds in the early 90's.

1. Harris
2. Donald
3. Schofield
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Maguire
8. Kylie
9. Buderus
10. JP
11. Ellis
12. Morley
13. Hanley

Subs
Burrow
Lautiti
Barrie Mac
Fleary

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1. Harris
2. Grothe
3. Schofield
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Kylie
9. Ward
10. Peacock
11. Ali
12. Webb
13. Hanley

14. Holmes
15. Buderus
16. McDermott
17. Tunks

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When to first game 82 or 83 so likes if John holmes David ward John Atkinson still around but past their prime. A few players no doubts all time greats but only twilight of their careers at Leeds, Andy Gregory best British scrum half i ever saw , but one average season with us, Ellery still Good but not the dominant player he was at Bradford and Wigan, Tunks and Grothe best prop and winger in the world but a brief spell.

1. Harris
2. Scot Donald
3. Kevin Iro
4. Keith Senior
5. Ryan Hall
6. Garry Schofield
7. Danny Mcguire
8. Roy Powell
9. Danny Buderos
10. JP
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Adrian Morley
13. Kevin Sinfield (captain)

14. Robb Burrow
15. Ali
16. Lee Crooks
17. Barrie Mac

Close but no cigar, Hugh waddle, Paul Dixon, Carl Ablett, Carl Gibson, David Creaser (injury prone) ET Marcus Bai. Ellery

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Quote: Sir Gregory Parsloe "Tricky task, saw first game in 1972.
1. Hardaker
2. Hall
3. Schofield
4. Senior
5. Atkinson
6. Holmes
7. McGuire
8. Kylie
9. Ward
10. Peacock
11. Morley
12. Hanley
13. Sinfield'"

14. Burrow
15. Ali
16. Crooks
17. Pitchford (1977 vintage)

Coach not sure it matters but would go for Tony Smith.

Could easily put Harris in at 1. I’ve gone
For an impact bench.

Agree with Arthur and Marty about Tony Currie, he would probably be 4th choice centre behind Les Dyl in his pomp for mine. Watkins would also be well in the mix at his best.
A few other shout outs for me would be Mark Laurie who made a massive impact in 83/84.
Going back further Alan Smith was a brilliant defensive winger and sound finisher, I did not see much of Ray Batten but was class, Bob Haigh was the same, very smart player like Liam Farrell. Graham Eccles was tremendous in the 70’s. Roy Powell another favourite.

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Quote: taxi4stevesmith "1. Harris
2. Grothe
3. Schofield
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Kylie
9. Ward
10. Peacock
11. Ali
12. Webb
13. Hanley

14. Holmes
15. Buderus
16. McDermott
17. Tunks'"


Interesting 2nd row there Steve,

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Quote: Sir Gregory Parsloe "Interesting 2nd row there Steve,'"

Mark Laurie must be gutted to miss out.

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