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Quote: ArthurClues "Hard to disagree with that assessment. From a Leeds point of view beggars cannot be chosers at present.'"


IMO he could be a starting prop at most SL clubs and wouldnt let you down. He is better when starting as he can get into the pace of the game more easily. He would go well with Oledski for the 1st 20-30 minutes, but as other posters have commented, you would need further additions at prop to make it a proper rotation

however i have a hunch that he will stay at Wigan (no information) unless the club are happy to offload as we have Hill ready to make his claim for a1st team spot, and may need to release someone with the recent contract extensions announced this week

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Very quite on here for a rumours thread.
Other than those stating the obvious in that we need props, the club are rubbish and do everything wrong comments there is very little in the way of actual rumours. The odd NRL name popping up now and then, mostly wishfull thinking like RCG. Nothing to even get us salivatiing like we had with Croft last year. The best I have seen elswhere is Cleary coming to SL to be with his GF who apparently is coming to play football. Now that is a proper rumour icon_smile.gif

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I like the idea of Byrne coming in. I can see a scenario of him and Mik starting and going reasonably well for an initial 25-30 min spell.

I would be focusing more on moving players out, with that in mind I would let Goudemand and Sangare go, I imagine both would consider other options if told they won’t be in the first team squad next season. I would also move on Lisone, he was a smith choice, his partner is back in the nrl and again I can’t imagine he will stick around if told he won’t be involved. I appreciate that is a lot of possible and things need to align for it come off.

With that cleared out you gain an extra quota spot, I’d go after two NRL props, potentially mat Croker at the knights, Ogden from the eels or Taupau for a year.

That gives you mik, Byrne, Croker, Ogden/taupau and Holroyd with TNW as sixth prop. I’d use the other quota spot in the second row on somebody like Chee-kam from south’s or alick-wiencke from Gold Coast. Basically a much bigger body than Martin.

Last move is mom to leave and replace with a bigger body more rugged centre from NRL who is also a kicker to replace Martin.

Fair few moves to sort there but that’s the kind of thing we should be aiming for in my opinion

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Some online chatter about BA in the running for Broncos job.

He wouldn't leave us high and dry......would he?

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Of course he would if the opportunity existed chance to manage one of the big 4 teams in the Nrl after a year when they have underperformed. The way walters has gone I would suspect the next man is already lined up!

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Its also ridiculously high pressure. Walters got the gig thanks to very public agitation against the previous coach (Seibold) by a bunch of former players who wanted 'Kevvie' to get the job. I reckon they will be waiting to do the same to whoever takes over if its not one of their mates.

Looking on the positive, if I was Arthur I'd prefer the Perth gig. Money to spend, and a good 2-3 years before he's likely to face real pressure on results. Not to mention a place in history if he makes it a success on the field.

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Byrne replacing Goudemand and/or Sangare isn't a bad option but we badly need that big nasty prop

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Quote: LeedsLurch "Very quite on here for a rumours thread.
Other than those stating the obvious in that we need props, the club are rubbish and do everything wrong comments there is very little in the way of actual rumours. The odd NRL name popping up now and then, mostly wishfull thinking like RCG. Nothing to even get us salivatiing like we had with Croft last year. The best I have seen elswhere is Cleary coming to SL to be with his GF who apparently is coming to play football. Now that is a proper rumour When Arthur said they were using this week for review at the post match press conference I don’t think he was referring to the 80 mins at Craven Park. Ever since then it's as if the entire club as been locked in the changing room. Not a word from the club or its close media sources: no email from Garry, no update from Blease, no real end of season obituary from Peter Smith. It's like there's an omerta. I can only hope that the board and senior management have finally concluded that enough is enough, and when those locked doors finally open there is a concrete plan in place. Then again, it could be that Garry has deleted his template and JJB's crack IT squad can't recover it from the server.

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Quote: Loiner at large "Nsemba signed a new 6 year contract presumably a significant upgrade so Wigan may need to sell to ease cap pressure. Agree with Arthur in that a squad is the sum of its parts. Byrne may be down the pecking order at Wigan but on this year's form he's better than any of our props bar Oledski! Could do a job at Leeds in the way Harrison who we passed on has done at Wire'"

Yes I believe he was desperate to stay with us but the maverick coach for only he knows didn't like tall players "Walters" another case, Harrison was a local lad with great pedigree but he saw more in Goudemand and Sangria you know the rest.

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If the Broncos want him, Arthur will be gone

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Quote: RAPIDO "Yes I believe he was desperate to stay with us but the maverick coach for only he knows didn't like tall players "Walters" another case, Harrison was a local lad with great pedigree but he saw more in Goudemand and Sangria you know the rest.'"


James Harrison? The one that played a few games on Loan for us in 2020? Signed for Warrington in 2022?

You’re blaming Rohan Smith for ‘letting him go’?

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Wasn't personally linking it to RS but he's an example of the type of player that fills out a squad in a salary cap sport.Played in 80% of Warringtons games this year averaging 90m per game which is far better than our props bar Oledski. Leeds seem obsessed with projects they think may be the next Walmsley etc when actually every successful team need some hardworking squad men to counter balance the stars. Back in the day Carl Ablett probably in that category for the goldens.

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ryan Bailey was a great example

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Quote: Loiner at large "Wasn't personally linking it to RS but he's an example of the type of player that fills out a squad in a salary cap sport.Played in 80% of Warringtons games this year averaging 90m per game which is far better than our props bar Oledski. Leeds seem obsessed with projects they think may be the next Walmsley etc when actually every successful team need some hardworking squad men to counter balance the stars. Back in the day Carl Ablett probably in that category for the goldens.'"


Hindsight is wonderful though.

If we had signed Harrison from Fev in 2020 which is four years ago he would have been a ‘project’ signing.

Our issue isn’t hard working professionals it’s the ‘ stars’ you mention that were missing.

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I think part of Rohan Smith's thing was that he could spot something in players that nobody else could. He went out to the championship and lower SL clubs to build the squad, and came back with Sangare, Goudemand, Warren, Hudson, Roberts, McDonnell, Olpherts and Ruan. Literally only McDonnell has worked out as a SL regular so far, and he is hardly amongst the elite of the competition.

I don't think there was a single poster on here, or anyone I spoke to in person who was satisfied with our front row going into this season, or with signings like Frawley, but RS had a philosophy that he wanted to play.

The club have not helped themselves over the years by letting decent home talent leave, who all seems now to be regular SL players, and far better than what we've brought in (Dupree, Mulhern, Harrison, Trout amongst others).

Arthur has come in and realised what every man and his dog (except RS) knew from the start of this season, we're no way near big enough, and we're no way near fit enough. Hopefully Blease can sort out the squad and backroom, and Arthur can whip us into a half decent team with fitness and a style of play that makes us competitive in every game whether we win or lose.

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