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| Quote: hull2524 "clumsy at best, goes on all the time,a ban yes it should be, but my problem is the next time nowt will happen,he will properly play fri'"
Goes on all the time? Yeah cant move for -house ankle twists in your average Super League.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "That first sentence is brilliant as an attempted insult.
If rules are rules perhaps you could point out the rule which backs up your statement that it was ok because McGuire broke his ankle where as it wouldn't have been had he not?'"
Where have I said it was ok because he broke his ankle? I have said no such thing. I don't even think he has broke his ankle.
Only you are trying to look for something not there. I pointed out the refs perspective, and to the rules he did it by the book. If you can't see that then I suggest you read the rules.
For the record I don't agree with the rules, but that is irrelevant.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Where have I said it was ok because he broke his ankle? I have said no such thing. I don't even think he has broke his ankle.
Only you are trying to look for something not there. I pointed out the refs perspective, and to the rules he did it by the book. If you can't see that then I suggest you read the rules.
For the record I don't agree with the rules, but that is irrelevant.'"
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| Quote: G1 "
I suggest you re-watch the video. He shows McGuire the card after a few minutes of treatment and whilst he is being carried from the field. Unless he concluded McGuire and the Leeds medical staff were faking it to avoid a sin binning it must have been obvious to him that McGuire was injured.'" not only that but he would need to have thought McGuire was faking injury from an offence he had already concluded happened. He saw the twist and signalled he had seen it and sent Sneyd off for it then decided that having your leg twisted to the point of causing injury wasn't justification for trying to kick the player causing that injury off.
If the referees are happy with such a situation then I would have every player do it every tackle next week. 10 mins in the bin and you either get to take a player out through injury or they are also sent from the field.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Did it stop his ankle been broken?.........However, the fact that McGuire sustained the injury from the offence, Hicks should have used his head better.
'" is this a different Gotcha?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "is this a different Gotcha?'"
What you are looking for I do not know. But you seem to be digging a little hole.
There was one view from the refs perspective that I said, then my view which is different that the ref should have used his head on realising there was an injury. Not a specific injury, an injury.
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| Quote: thebloodbath "Goes on all the time? Yeah cant move for -house ankle twists in your average Super League.'"
Everyone's just following Issac Luke's example. What did he get for the one on Chase, one game wasn't it?
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| Away from that incident, how good was Ryan Hall's pass between his legs from the drop by the Hull player that led directly to our third try scored by Keinhorst?
Re the substitutions of Aiton & Sutcliffe. No issues for me there. Aiton went off & Sinfield came on to replace him at hooker & dummy half. But Sutcliffe got a bang on his knee that he couldn't run off meaning he had to be subbed, that meant Sinfield had to go to No 6 so Aiton had to come back on as hooker & dummy half. Just an unfortunate set of circumstances.
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| Quote: Gotcha "So a player who is at fault for two try's conceding and failed to put a ball down over the line against a much smaller opponent was our best player. .'"
In my opinion yes. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? I'm guessing from your condescending tone you disagree. That is fine and is your right. Oh, and don't assume that sentence means I accept your view that he was at fault for two tries, just that even if he was, he did more than enough during the rest of the game to justify my opinion.
But my opinion isn't left field and I have substantiated by reference to his prodigious defence and attacking prowess. It's certainly not as left field as the opinion you gave about yesterday's man of the match at the ground, Keinhorst. "Never make a Super League player" wasn't it? How many super league games has he played since that prognostication?
Oh, and by the way, I think he did get the ball down over the line.
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| Quote: Old Feller "Away from that incident, how good was Ryan Hall's pass between his legs from the drop by the Hull player that led directly to our third try scored by Keinhorst?
'" It was good but, for me, the pass of the day was McGuire to Hall in the build up to McGuire's try. That was a peach.
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| Quote: G1 "It was good but, for me, the pass of the day was McGuire to Hall in the build up to McGuire's try. That was a peach.'"
Don't disagree, but I liked the comedy value of Hall's pass.
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| Quote: G1 "...Oh, and by the way, I think he did get the ball down over the line.'"
I don't know about that too far away to see from the Carnegie Stand but the poor thing about it was against a player so much smaller than him he should have been able to get the ball down without leaving any doubt in the official's minds.
Fortunately in this instance it didn't cost us. But he did show good pace to get to the line, more than he's shown in other recent games.
Pity he & Keinhorst couldn't have made better efforts to stop Thompson's somewhat soft effort for their first try.
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| Quote: G1 "In my opinion yes. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? I'm guessing from your condescending tone you disagree. That is fine and is your right. Oh, and don't assume that sentence means I accept your view that he was at fault for two tries, just that even if he was, he did more than enough during the rest of the game to justify my opinion.
But my opinion isn't left field and I have substantiated by reference to his prodigious defence and attacking prowess. It's certainly not as left field as the opinion you gave about yesterday's man of the match at the ground, Keinhorst. "Never make a Super League player" wasn't it? How many super league games has he played since that prognostication?
Oh, and by the way, I think he did get the ball down over the line.'"
Well enlighten us then, why were they not his fault? clear as day the first try, and he didn't do his job for the Houghton one.
Actually what I said two years ago on Keinhorst was that that he would never make a Super League centre. However, hands up because I actually thought he had done a decent job at centre the previous two games, so I can't exactly say different here. Then again though I have seen plenty players look good over a few games and then nothing.
Oh, and by the way, I also thought he got it down. However, it was a poor effort to leave it with any doubt whatsoever. And not the effort of the best player.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "not only that but he would need to have thought McGuire was faking injury from an offence he had already concluded happened. He saw the twist and signalled he had seen it and sent Sneyd off for it then decided that having your leg twisted to the point of causing injury wasn't justification for trying to kick the player causing that injury off.
If the referees are happy with such a situation then I would have every player do it every tackle next week. 10 mins in the bin and you either get to take a player out through injury or they are also sent from the field.'"
The alternative being that providing a player fakes injury following a foul it's then ok to deliver a kick to someone's face? It's only a matter of time before all the players are doing it.
FWIW I think Hicks dealt with it fairly well. Hand on heart, how many on here appreciated how serious McGuire's injury was at the time?
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| Quote: Clearwing "how many on here appreciated how serious McGuire's injury was at the time?'"
It became clear after the dust settled, when he was being helped off. At the same time Hicks was sin binning a clearly injured McGuire.
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