We need a 2002 style Cull 7-8 players need showing the door. Otherwise Arthur may as well just go home now, 2-3 new signings ain’t going to cut it.

Yep agree. Rohan and Gary made a right mess of recruitment and it’s going to take some time to get it right

Given the amount of surgery we need , I’d be looking to say to Ryan Hall you can go into the corporate role next year and free up more space and go with Lumb.

As others have said one prop isn’t enough

The plus side of the Wigan result is showing that London away is actually closer to the normal standard for too many of our squad. That will hopefully show in comings and goings before next season.

I still think Hall is a strange and rather pointless signing, most likely not based on anything to do with the playing side. Still, its done.

In a fantasy rugby world and based on actual performances this season, looking at senior players I'd keep just Miller, Handley and Croft in the backs and McDonnell, O'Connor and Bentley of the forwards. Add to that Oledzki can do better, hopefully Newman is carrying some kind of knock, and Ackers has shown decent form elsewhere, so I'd keep them. Frawley is passable when the rest of the team play well. I'm genuinely struggling to find reasons to justify keeping anyone else.

Sadly its not fantasy rugby, and we'll be stuck next season with some substandard players. Smith did show its possible to get rid of contracted players. But the focus on who we bring in has to be on quality, and its clear there are some players who have to be moved as soon as possible.

Momo got to be going after that shambolic effort, gutless

Really disappointed with Momo. I know he missed pre season and first season over etc but he just hasn't really kicked on at all

Going to be a hard sell for my season ticket next year if that’s what I’ve got to look forward to. Going into year 10 of a rebuild, poor from a club of our size.

Too many plodders getting paid big bucks, how we are even close to cap is beyond me

Put him in a decent team, and class centre there. You can see that. Not the type of player who’s going to do something from nowhere. Agree poor fit for where we are now. ( Nene is a much more talented player for SL)

I doubt he will want t9 move so we have Mom for next year.
Hopefully pre season and being more settled makes a big difference because for a QS centre he's not doing enough, regular enough to keep longer than we have to

he's crap. end of

We’ve had poor coach after poor coach for so many years, paired with a CEO who on the rugby side is so far past his sell by date that he can’t recognise a good player any more, it’s no surprise that our recruitment has been shocking for so long. Fortunately now we have an excellent coach and a very astute SD, let’s see if the board will back them to transform the squad.

I’m not holding my breath, but it’s the best shot at recruitment we’ve had in years.

Players very rarely stay if it's made clear they aren’t wanted. Mom hasn't set the world on fire, but I don't think he'll have much trouble getting another gig in SL, or as a squad player in the NRL. It's just a question of whether we might need to supplement a portion of his wages, particularly if he stays in England. I am sure he'll be going though - Arthur has publicly stated he wants another 3/4 and didn’t deny interest in Rapana. Given the surgery required in the pack, that can only mean one thing.

Agree Arthur - while the incomings might have been a mess, Smith at least showed it is possible to move players on you don't want, even if they are contracted. You just have to be clear they have no future at Leeds. We've got three or four forwards who I'd rather pay a chunk of their wages for them to be at Championship teams than at Headingley, and that's exactly what I'd be telling them will happen if they insist on seeing out their contracts. I'd rather take a hit on their salaries and bring in fewer quality players and rely on youth to back up.

Frankly its hard to see us getting anywhere without at least two quality big forwards adding. I'm not surprised Arthur sees the backs as a problem as well, as we've got so little physical punch.

Arthur has also mentioned pre season a lot. It will be very interesting to see what difference that can make to some players.

Think Smith got players to leave by being himself and once they saw how awful he was after a pre-season and full year in charge, they ran out the door!

Agree he couldn't have been more obvious in terms of where he considered the issue to be regarding recruitment in the backs talking about potentially Handley to centre and an overseas three-quarter being recruited. The recruitment generally is shocking when we look at the overseas players. Lisone lazy and unfit! Momo no pace or power! Sangare both of the above plus no idea! Goudamond ok player at a lower level but adds nothing to first 17 ! Frawley underwhelming but would be ok if we fixed the other areas! Miller I think is good now he's cutting out mistakes tough durable and works hard making good metres every week. Croft just picked the wrong team ! Martin quality.