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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Because clubs, similar to Toronto, couldnt afford to play.'"


It may be, but the decision was made in the correct way. In addition they are mostly part time and the players have other jobs to consider and their owners local business men with limited resources. Toronto are one full time club backed by a multimillionaire. A club in difficulty because of poor management going off half cocked making a unilateral decision just days before their first match. They must have been aware of the situation whilst they continued to give assurances about the revised fixture. Their problems were surfacing even before the lockdown.

If you cannot see the difference in the two situations.......

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Because clubs, similar to Toronto, couldnt afford to play.'"


No it was a democratic decision led by the RFL.

Do you really believe that if only two or three clubs didn't want to play that the leagues would have been cancelled? Sure there is a few that would liked to have played, but the MAJORITY, let me repeat that, the MAJORITY decided they couldn't, and therefore it was agreed not to go ahead.

In what cuckoo universe is that similar to Toronto making their own decisoin at the expense of the rest of the league clubs, and after giving assurances only 48 hours earlier?

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Quote: Gotcha "No it was a democratic decision led by the RFL.

Do you really believe that if only two or three clubs didn't want to play that the leagues would have been cancelled? Sure there is a few that would liked to have played, but the MAJORITY, let me repeat that, the MAJORITY decided they couldn't, and therefore it was agreed not to go ahead.

In what cuckoo universe is that similar to Toronto making their own decisoin at the expense of the rest of the league clubs, and after giving assurances only 48 hours earlier?'"


What you have said there is 100% spot on Gotcha. The MAJORITY (in capitals) let me repeat the MAJORITY of clubs, who lets be honest are eligible for the government grant and also central funding, are deciding to not fulfill their fixtures. Yet nothing is been said about these clubs. That is my point.

While everyone is getting giddy about Toronto's demise why arent people questioning the lower league clubs taking the same decision.

As ive said repeatedly now, what Toronto have done is plainly wrong but other clubs are doing exactly the bloody same albeit without the headlines and bloodthirst as Toronto. I agree with everyone that Toronto should be punished accordingly but only in line with the other clubs doing exactly the same as them.

I believe really we are in total agreement.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "What you have said there is 100% spot on Gotcha. The MAJORITY (in capitals) let me repeat the MAJORITY of clubs, who lets be honest are eligible for the government grant and also central funding, are deciding to not fulfill their fixtures. Yet nothing is been said about these clubs. That is my point.

While everyone is getting giddy about Toronto's demise why arent people questioning the lower league clubs taking the same decision.

As ive said repeatedly now, what Toronto have done is plainly wrong but other clubs are doing exactly the bloody same albeit without the headlines and bloodthirst as Toronto. I agree with everyone that Toronto should be punished accordingly but only in line with the other clubs doing exactly the same as them.

I believe really we are in total agreement.'"


So you are obtuse.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "What you have said there is 100% spot on Gotcha. The MAJORITY (in capitals) let me repeat the MAJORITY of clubs, who lets be honest are eligible for the government grant and also central funding, are deciding to not fulfill their fixtures. Yet nothing is been said about these clubs. That is my point.

While everyone is getting giddy about Toronto's demise why arent people questioning the lower league clubs taking the same decision.

As ive said repeatedly now, what Toronto have done is plainly wrong but other clubs are doing exactly the bloody same albeit without the headlines and bloodthirst as Toronto. I agree with everyone that Toronto should be punished accordingly but only in line with the other clubs doing exactly the same as them.

I believe really we are in total agreement.'"



I cannot seriously believe you can't see the difference.

For a start did the lower league clubs give the RFL assurances that they would be competing in the rescheduled fixtures, letting the fixture list be agreed and published then a week later pull out?

That alone makes it a totally different scenario.

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Quote: christopher "I cannot seriously believe you can't see the difference.

For a start did the lower league clubs give the RFL assurances that they would be competing in the rescheduled fixtures, letting the fixture list be agreed and published then a week later pull out?

That alone makes it a totally different scenario.'"


That makes it even worse. They clearly had absolutely no intention of ever fulfilling their fixtures. Certainly doesnt make it right Chris.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "That makes it even worse. They clearly had absolutely no intention of ever fulfilling their fixtures. Certainly doesnt make it right Chris.'"


It really doesn't make it worse.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse for some reason on this, probably because you had to backtrack from your earlier comments on Wolfpack?

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If we relegate Toronto, then who do we promote?

What punishment do we give them? They already don't get any sky money, they had to pay to enter the cup, and they're not eligible for the 16m government grant.

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Quote: christopher "It really doesn't make it worse.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse for some reason on this, probably because you had to backtrack from your earlier comments on Wolfpack?'"


Why cant you see that my comments are aimed at the traditional clubs which appear to be untouchable and uncriticisable and not aimed at Toronto?

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Why cant you see that my comments are aimed at the traditional clubs which appear to be untouchable and uncriticisable and not aimed at Toronto?'"


Why can’t you see that the situations aren’t remotely comparable?

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Why cant you see that my comments are aimed at the traditional clubs which appear to be untouchable and uncriticisable and not aimed at Toronto?'"




If you are just on a wind up then carry on , if not i suggest you leave the Forum !

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Leave the forum lol. Oh dear this place is something else.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "If you are just on a wind up then carry on , if not i suggest you leave the Forum !'"


Leave the forum because he has a different opinion?

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Quote: christopher "Why can’t you see that the situations aren’t remotely comparable?'"


Think you are hitting your head on a brick wall, Christopher

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Super League Clubs need to think about the new sky tv deal to be negotiated next year. Having Toronto in Super League undoubtedly makes that tv deal worth more.

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