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Quote: batleyrhino "No time for favours means he needs to not get emotional about the people he played with and do the job he is employed to do. I expect he will move JJB and Delaney on and replace them with younger more dynamic players who carry a threat with the ball as well as doing the defensive work.'"


From the sounds of it......not yet. Both seem to have offers for Next season together with Ablett as well #moreofthesame

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Sorry do you people live in a rarefied world or something? Have the performances got worse under Messiah kev or not?

Just be honest, he's been a disaster and there's no point dressing it up as anything else.

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He wants to retain JJB, Ablett and Delaney? Dear o dear. New 5 year deal for Ferres too?

The bloke has lost it and the wooden spoon awaits next season.

In Kev we trust though, right?

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Quote: Parkside Freddie "Sorry do you people live in a rarefied world or something? Have the performances got worse under Messiah kev or not?

Just be honest, he's been a disaster and there's no point dressing it up as anything else.'"


No, a disaster would have been relegation. I really don’t know why I’m replying to you though

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Quote: Parkside Freddie "He wants to retain JJB, Ablett and Delaney? Dear o dear. New 5 year deal for Ferres too?

The bloke has lost it and the wooden spoon awaits next season.

In Kev we trust though, right?'"


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It will be interesting to see the stats - I watched JJB last night and he only made 4 tackles the whole night where he was the first person in the tackle. No doubt he will awarded a tackle count of 30+ which highlights the issues people have with his contribution and the picture the stats display

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Quote: Sal Paradise "It will be interesting to see the stats - I watched JJB last night and he only made 4 tackles the whole night where he was the first person in the tackle. No doubt he will awarded a tackle count of 30+ which highlights the issues people have with his contribution and the picture the stats display'"


Whilst I agree with what you are saying, and I definitely don’t think he should be kept, in terms of work rate and desire, I actually thought he was our number one player last night.

In terms of tackling though, just how clucking poor are Keinhorst and Sutcliffe. No idea where this myth about Keinhorst has come from, he is absolutely terrible. Sutcliffe is just not interested in the slightest in pushing himself to be a worthwhile player, he clearly believes he has made it already.

The forwards as a whole were absolutely terrible last night, and given a choice would not keep one single one of them.

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If JJB, Delaney & Ablett are running around in a Leeds shirt next season then I’d lose all faith in Sinfield’s (unproven) ability in his role. Knowing that it’s likely that Steve Ward will miss plenty of games too, it’d be completely farcical.

Enough is enough.

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Quote: Gotcha "Whilst I agree with what you are saying, and I definitely don’t think he should be kept, in terms of work rate and desire, I actually thought he was our number one player last night.

In terms of tackling though, just how clucking poor are Keinhorst and Sutcliffe. No idea where this myth about Keinhorst has come from, he is absolutely terrible. Sutcliffe is just not interested in the slightest in pushing himself to be a worthwhile player, he clearly believes he has made it already.

The forwards as a whole were absolutely terrible last night, and given a choice would not keep one single one of them.'"


Bang on. I thought keinhorst didn't look interested at all. Very very poor. The pack were a disgrace though I though cuthbo looked ok when he came on..

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Tough job ahead for Sinfield. As he said it's ok getting rid of a load of players but if the ones coming in are not much better, we are still going to struggle. The last thing we need is 3 year contracts given to players who are not up to the job. He obviously couldn't say to the press everything he wanted to but you can't just get rid of players under contract.
JJB is coming to the end of a great career and been out of contract is easy to release, but if all the players on display last night were out of contract im sure there were others Sinfield would release before JJB.

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Agree with Gotcha on JJB. A shame some of the others didn't put in his effort.

Sutcliffe's loose off-load when Leeds had their tails up in the second half was the turning point IMO.

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Can't believe Kev is getting blamed for the state of the team. Fair enough performances haven't improved but the quality in the squad isn't there and he's said it. He always said he didn't want to coach, but stepped in when the club was desperate. Next year he's in an entirely different role which most of us think he'll excel in. As for keeping Ablett, JJB and Delaney lets see what comes out. The squad will be without Galloway, Ormondroyd, Jordan-Roberts, Keinhorst, maybe Mullally and Walters. If they're on short contracts as squad fillers it might not be that bad. But it all depends on who comes in. I just hope that the club isn't planning just for next year, but there's a 3, 4, 5 year plan for getting back to the top. And they learn the lesson not to sit back and bask in the glory of success, there always needs to be this plan in place

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Quote: christopher " both Furner and Sinfield have been around this club when that was happening before and they both know what it takes to turn that into a championship winning club.'"


Bit of a Freudian slip perhaps.

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Quote: The Magic Rat "Tough job ahead for Sinfield. As he said it's ok getting rid of a load of players but if the ones coming in are not much better, we are still going to struggle. The last thing we need is 3 year contracts given to players who are not up to the job. He obviously couldn't say to the press everything he wanted to but you can't just get rid of players under contract.
JJB is coming to the end of a great career and been out of contract is easy to release, but if all the players on display last night were out of contract im sure there were others Sinfield would release before JJB.'"

At some point the Club have to let go , hanging in too long to players & signing other ordinary ones is part of the reason why we'rein this mess.
If & its a big if Jjb gets a payp deal rolling month to month with a promise of a long term job when he retires then fair enough.
No places though imo for Delaney Abblet Mullally Thompson & Walters id also want to release Ferres & Luke Briscoe.
Not sure how long other players have left on their deals but id review all those with a year left aswell.
I also think a big cull is needed off the pitch Lowes & the whole conditioning dept can go for me.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "Agree with Gotcha on JJB. A shame some of the others didn't put in his effort.

Sutcliffe's loose off-load when Leeds had their tails up in the second half was the turning point IMO.'"


Sutcliffe was loose all night in truth. The lad needs a rocket up his backside but in truth it's wrong to single anyone out as the whole team was pretty diabolical.

Why do we never protect our wingers or full back when high kicks up? We just allow opposition chasers licence to contest the ball. By the way what a great job Tom Briscoe has done this year under the high ball. He's been very solid all year. I certainly wouldn't want to play on our wing.

Why Cam Smith, after his excellent performance at Halifax, got so little game time I have no idea. This is the sort of lad who shouldve been playing week in week out over last 2 months to give him experience to move forward with and he should have been given chance to show the football ability he has.

All in all bloody woeful again but let's be thankful season is over and let's see what changes are made over next couple of months. I don't think there will be as many as we all hope.

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