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Quote: thebloodbath "How long do you give them, out of interest?

They have had a full season, and they are both clued up. Their partnership hasn't really improved as the season has gone on.

How long did BJB/Watkins take, that looked seamless instantly. Even this season when BJB has been dropped in from time to time they never needed any 'getting back up to speed'. The partnership just worked. Watkins and Briscoe need to do plenty in the off season and get up to speed sooner rather than later.'"

Maybe they could try swapping Hall and Briscoe? Briscoe played down the left at Hull?

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Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Maybe they could try swapping Hall and Briscoe? Briscoe played down the left at Hull?'"


Briscoe's worst performances this season were on the l[ieft[/i wing

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "BJB and Watkins played together quite a bit in the academy to be fair.'"


Did BJB play on the wing in the acadamey?

Even if true it's no excuse for Briscoe and Watkins not building up a better understanding in training when exploring and perfecting the team's attacking options. Cough!

(Funny thing is they seemed to have a better understanding [iearly [/iin the season)

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Quote: nantwichexile "Briscoe's worst performances this season were on the l[ieft[/i wing'"

I know he had a problem in the Bradford Game. God knows. Something isn't right.

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Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Maybe they could try swapping Hall and Briscoe? Briscoe played down the left at Hull?'"


Or better, send Briscoe to Salford instead of BJB and hope Kouhkash doesn't notice.

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Quote: thebloodbath "Or better, send Briscoe to Salford instead of BJB and hope Kouhkash doesn't notice.'"

He most likely wouldn't notice ha

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The thing about "partnerships" are they involve more than one man. Let's be honest it's not fashionable to lay any blame towards Watkins, but for about 5 games he was great and for me has been very poor for the majority of the year. When Watkins is poor it's the pivots and SR fault for not getting him the ball, but appears to be blameless in the poor partnership with briscoe. All briscoe fault

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Quote: Ferdy "The thing about "partnerships" are they involve more than one man. Let's be honest it's not fashionable to lay any blame towards Watkins, but for about 5 games he was great and for me has been very poor for the majority of the year. When Watkins is poor it's the pivots and SR fault for not getting him the ball, but appears to be blameless in the poor partnership with briscoe. All briscoe fault'"


Well said Ferdy....it is always easier to blame the scapegoat. That seems to be Briscoe's fate at the moment. I still believe he is an improvement on BJB not least on (generally) bringing the ball back into play....maybe not enough to result in the no doubt bigger salary cap impact (replacing BJB on the wing really should not have been such a priority - I think most agreed on that).....but he IS here now and the club/coaching staff need to learn how to get the best out of him AND Watkins by coming up with some bluddy effective solutions in training on various attacking strategies.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Well said Ferdy....it is always easier to blame the scapegoat. That seems to be Briscoe's fate at the moment. I still believe he is an improvement on BJB not least on (generally) bringing the ball back into play....maybe not enough to result in the no doubt bigger salary cap impact (replacing BJB on the wing really should not have been such a priority - I think most agreed on that).....but he IS here now and the club/coaching staff need to learn how to get the best out of him AND Watkins by coming up with some bluddy effective solutions in training on various attacking strategies.'"


.......and let's not forget signing Buderus should not have been a perceived priority signing whilst Diskin resided at the club........and look how well that signing turned out (in most people's opinions except G1 of course icon_biggrin.gif )

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Quote: nantwichexile ".......and let's not forget signing Buderus should not have been a perceived priority signing whilst Diskin resided at the club........and look how well that signing turned out (in most people's opinions except G1 of course

Indeed, and let's not forget that another of G1's man crushes was a certain Aussie winger who was absolute mince for the first 18 months of his particular career...

I'd give Briscoe another season to shape up, but we have bigger problems to address within our pack.

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The problems are not just in the squad.

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Quote: BillyRhino "Indeed, and let's not forget that another of G1's man crushes was a certain Aussie winger who was absolute mince for the first 18 months of his particular career...

I'd give Briscoe another season to shape up, but we have bigger problems to address within our pack.'"

I always think new signings need a years grace to settle into team patterns etc.Briscoe is no different.Signings that spring to mind (in previous years) who were slightly disappointing in their first season were McKenna,Scott Donald,Delaney,all these improved and did the club great credit.Jamie Mathiou never improved on his first season; I am slightly worried with Mitch Achurch who is about to enter his 3rd season,next year.Hope he is not another Jamie Mathiou.Although players like ET and Marcus Bai seemed to hit the ground running.

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Quote: Dwayne Dibley "I always think new signings need a years grace to settle into team patterns etc.Briscoe is no different.Signings that spring to mind (in previous years) who were slightly disappointing in their first season were McKenna,Scott Donald,Delaney,all these improved and did the club great credit.Jamie Mathiou never improved on his first season; I am slightly worried with Mitch Achurch who is about to enter his 3rd season,next year.Hope he is not another Jamie Mathiou.Although players like ET and Marcus Bai seemed to hit the ground running.'"


I personally think Achurch has improved from last year. I think the biggest issues are he seems to be a confidence sort of player needs to get on a bit of a roll. Early season playing second row thought he looked promising but a few injuries and a return to either bench warming or prop, which he doesn't do very well has not helped him

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Delaney came good after everyone realised he wasn't really much cop as a centre.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Delaney came good after everyone realised he wasn't really much cop as a centre.'"


Makes you wonder how he got a gig in the NRL at centre?

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