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He was right in the end:



Quote: ryano "Too right! I suggest you locate the kid with the blond hair and red, chubby cheeks who lead a chorus of your fans in a homophobic chant aimed towards Tom Briscoe and try convince him.'"

Its easier to locate your south stand singing about us going down with our trawlers.

And to Gotcha, the best post you could have done would have been "yes i agree, theres no place for homophobia in the modern world, but on this occasion Zak has been found not to use such language"

So in effect you are still dodging the fact that homophobia is not acceptable.

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Quote: frepneyboy "There is no place in the modern world for homophobia, its not quite "name calling" as you say'"


Can you read? Where did he say it does have a place? Before you climb up your step ladders to get on your high horse, it is usually a good idea to check the grounding.

The problem with zealots is that they can only see a specific set of crimes and follow one agenda.

The point he was making is that there is no place in society for many things. Furthermore, that contrived hysteria over just one those misdemeanours is hypocrisy at best and laughable posturing at worst.

Personally, I do see any form of violence or intent to commit injury as being far worse than any other crime. However, that does not mean that the infringement of anybody's right to live peacefully is not important.

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Quote: frepneyboy "Its easier to locate your south stand singing about us going down with our trawlers.

And to Gotcha, the best post you could have done would have been "yes i agree, theres no place for homophobia in the modern world, but on this occasion Zak has been found not to use such language"

So in effect you are still dodging the fact that homophobia is not acceptable.'"


I've never heard it but I did witness your grunts personally. HTH icon_heartkiss.gif

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Quote: frepneyboy "There is no place in the modern world for homophobia, its not quite "name calling" as you say'"


Homophobia is worse than beating a woman??? Really? Why?

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Homophobia is worse than beating a woman??? Really? Why?'"

No better or worse, There is no place for it either. Most of us dont live in the 1950's

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Quote: frepneyboy "No better or worse, There is no place for it either. Most of us dont live in the 1950's'"


Either way it's irrelevant now as far as the subject of this thread is concerned isn't it?

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Quote: frepneyboy "No better or worse, There is no place for it either. Most of us dont live in the 1950's'"


Has Hull ever moved on from the 1950's ? icon_biggrin.gif

I've been in the South Stand many many many times and I've never heard a trawler song. To be fair, how many Leeds fans know of a connection between Hull and trawlers ?? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: vernon "I've been in the South Stand many many many times and I've never heard a trawler song. To be fair, how many Leeds fans know of a connection between Hull and trawlers ?? I have, but a very long time ago.

Definitely pre-SL era it was chanted - before or after singing "Get Your Fathers Gun..." - sometime circa late 70's or early 80's - ish.

"Sing When You're Mining" was also quite popular during the 80's Miners Strike when the mining communities were doing it really tough during Thatcher govts war against them. It was chanted loudly by southstanders particularly during the half time break in games against Castleford when their fans were walking past to change ends pitchside, as fans were allowed to do back then.

Always been classless have some southstanders and on a par with the thruppeny mob over at Hull.

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Quote: William Eve "

Always been classless have some southstanders and on a par with the thruppeny mob over at Hull.'"


Absolutely. Given, in general, the impeccably generous, welcoming and partisan nature of crowds at sports stadiums in this country and across the world, I'm surprised the South Stand hasn't been closed for encouraging such despicably anti-social behavior.

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Quote: William Eve "
Always been classless have some southstanders and on a par with the thruppeny mob over at Hull.'"


All clubs have their fair share though, would you not agree?

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Quote: Clubber_Lang "Absolutely. Given, in general, the impeccably generous, welcoming and partisan nature of crowds at sports stadiums in this country and across the world, I'm surprised the South Stand hasn't been closed for encouraging such despicably anti-social behavior.'"

Mocking the dead and others associated with trades which have represented working class communities in harsh conditions and with such distinction, and whose cultural demographic roots are indelibly intertwined with rugby league, is about as low as it gets.

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Quote: William Eve "Mocking the dead and others associated with trades which have represented working class communities in harsh conditions and with such distinction, and whose cultural demographic roots are indelibly intertwined with rugby league, is about as low as it gets.'"


Indeed, and you make an interesting observation about what passed as acceptable behavior by sports fans 40 odd years ago. Not really applicable to the people who watch from the south stand today though is it?

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Quote: Biff Tannen "All clubs have their fair share though, would you not agree?'"

Just because others have their fair share doesn't make it right.

Anyhow, a response was required to someone keen to paint southstanders in a more favourable light than they deserve.

I didn't expect anyone else on this forum to provide such a response, so I guess it was up to me all along to keep things real icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Clubber_Lang "Indeed, and you make an interesting observation about what passed as acceptable behavior by sports fans 40 odd years ago. Not really applicable to the people who watch from the south stand today though is it?'"

Todays mob wouldn't have a clue about the trawler industry in Hull or the disasters that have cost thousands of Hull fishermen their lives. I'm guessing that's probably a good thing.

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