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| Fair play to all fans from different clubs acknowledging that the Martin ban is ridiculous. To be fair its is a system that is not fit for purpose and impacting all team. The grand final for whoever gets there may be decided by the lottery of the MRP the monday before the game. Our whole game is currently a mess. We have a chief excecutive standing down plus another board member.
There is a lack of direction and leadership at all levels within the RFL. We potentially have a great product that is being turned into touch and pass or a game of tag!
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| Quote: Ashton Bears "Wigan fan here said early on if Martin appeals he would definitely get the ban removed, this is a outrageous decision 2 games for a accidental foul.'"
Yeh, this one stinks.
We've copped plenty of deserved bans this season for stupid indiscipline.
Bentley & Tetevano have (quite rightly) been given longer bans because of a poor disciplinary record.
Hopefully, based on the last few weeks, this has had the desired effect and they have learned.
We've also made stupid appeals - Newman was a deserved ban and extension on appeal.
But this one is ridiculous.
Martin is not a dirty player.
It's an accidental collision.
Thats where the MRP are getting it wrong.
There's a huge difference between intent and accidental.
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| So is that Fusitua, Newman, Handley, Walker, and Martin missing?
Along with probably Austin and Dwyer.
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| I'm certain the players will show a strong response to this decision in their performance.
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| Quote: chapylad "So is that Fusitua, Newman, Handley, Walker, and Martin missing?
Along with probably Austin and Dwyer.'"
It's barely going to be worth watching and not sure I will now.
Joke
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| The threequarters are a big loss, plus Austin/Martin. Walker makes no difference. Dwyer would be a bit of a loss but we do have plenty of cover there. Given our likely team a competitive performance for 80 minutes would be a good result. It fells like a bridge too far though, and lots of lessons for next year.
I see yet again the panel has had a hissy fit, deeming Martin's appeal 'frivolous' and adding another match. I do have a slight bit of sympathy in this case for refusing the appeal as he caught the opponent high, but that is disgraceful language again and the extra game is a farce.
Definitely wait until after the last game, but I'd actually be disappointed if Leeds don't make some sort of public statement about the disciplinary.
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| But the minimal and incidental touch on the end of Mellors nose on Martins arm brushing past to make the tackle around the ball is not the contact the mrp spoke about trying to eliminate from the game. There is absolutely no head injury risk or 'flexion' (to use their other favourite F word) .
I hope leeds do have a very public response to the whole situation, but I hope the other clubs are part of the that too as this can't go on and it needs a collective stance..
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| I understand the relatively trivial issue of the tackle, just arguing that strictly speaking he did catch him high, even if unintentionally and unlucky it was straight on the hooter. As you say, its not that sort of impact that would cause the game problems - allowing obvious head shots to go unpunished would be a problem in terms of perception, but ultimately the real problem is the nature of the game itself.
Regardless, the disciplinary has been an utter farce this year. Thirteen players cited the other week. Ridiculous. If anything they are banning so many players you could argue they are adding to the risk of those left unbanned, who have to play more games as a result.
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| Not sure how this will ever be resolved without a complete overall of the disciplinary system. Surely the RFL should resort to a system where only offences that are picked up by match officials are subjected to a disciplinary panel. Maybe this should include a fourth video official at all games. Appeals against any bans should be allowed without fear of further punishment. Perhaps we should have a points system for yellow cards like football with only red cards going to a disciplinary.
In a contact sport you will always have incidents where tackles are high or late. These should be dealt with on the pitch when the referee with help from other officials can decide if there was clear intent.
I am sure we all agree that players deliberately taking out another should be punished but the system at the moment is a farce run by idiots that seem to be able to do and say what they like with nobody to answer to.
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| Wigan fan here, I hadn't commented on the Martin ban because I hadn't seen the tackle but I just watched it and I could not believe my eyes! That is just barely a penalty. How they got a ban from that in the first place is baffling to me. To then add another match because of a "frivolous" appeal absolutely beggars belief. It's absolutely outrageous and I will be contacting the RFL to make my feelings clear.
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| He caught him high and has been punished. It wasn't a malicious tackle or a swinging arm with intent. The problem imo is that you could find numerous similar tackles throughout the season that have not even led to a charge. As someone mentioned Donaldson gets hit high every week, very few if any result in a charge.
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| Quote: tyr "Wigan fan here, I hadn't commented on the Martin ban because I hadn't seen the tackle but I just watched it and I could not believe my eyes! That is just barely a penalty. How they got a ban from that in the first place is baffling to me. To then add another match because of a "frivolous" appeal absolutely beggars belief. It's absolutely outrageous and I will be contacting the RFL to make my feelings clear.'"
I hope many more fans and coaches of all clubs do.
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| Presumably Leeds will be appealing the frivolous charge again.
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "He caught him high and has been punished. It wasn't a malicious tackle or a swinging arm with intent. The problem imo is that you could find numerous similar tackles throughout the season that have not even led to a charge. As someone mentioned Donaldson gets hit high every week, very few if any result in a charge.'"
Correct, if the rules were applied uniformly across the game dozens of bans would be dished out. It’s unfortunate for us Martin seems to have been singled out . I am not a conspiracy theory fan so I can only conclude it’s bureaucratic nonsense. However it puts a lot of pressure on this Fridays referee. Likewise with the discipline panel looking at the remaining matches. Be interesting to see if this Friday ,the sky commentators have anything to say on the matter. Obviously it’s a hot topic and should be discussed in depth. Any major decisions going against us this Friday will worsen the situation between us and the RL. God forbid we lose the game on Friday with missed goal kicks, that really would put the cat amongst the pigeons
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