Apart from his questionable fitness, if I was a saints fan I would be more worried about his lack of interest and enthusiasm.
He did not seem interested in the foot race to prevent the wakey break out try. Nor did he have the appetite for the high ball, he obviously is a class player . All that counts for nothing if he does not want to be in the uk.

I personally think its the most open play off series ever. Cas will be favorites and rightly so but they will have huge pressure on them and they are yet to prove they can handle it. Of the other teams us, Hull Wigan or Saints ( i think sadly Wakey blew their chance last night although would be happy to be proved wrong) all have recent experience of big games and winning in them and the club cultures are all abouy success, i dont buy posters coming on here citing we cant do it without JP and Sinfield...probably the same ones saying they were done and finished in 2011/12

Fact is the SL standard is not great, we can beat anyone in a one off game, and this is a fantastic opportunity for an unexpected last hurrah we thought we'd had in 2015.

oh I agree with every word. in a one off game of course we can win. but I still think we would be a damn sight better side with a halfback in the sinfield, gale mode who knows when to play, when to kick, when to slow down and when to speed up. we don't have that

17 as expected with Walker ahead of Golding. But Ablett on the bench with Cuthbertson loose and Garbutt starting prop. Not saying it's wrong for Ablett to be demoted to the bench, I agree (fortunate in fact to make the 17 lately) but a bit surprised. Hopefully a demotion and coming on mid game may see some improvement from him.

I don't think we are a lot better than 2016 I just the competition has degraded significantly. Leeds aren't second because they are so much better than last year and everyone else has stood still.

When have Leeds played in a game they really have to win in 2017 - when you are saying beating Salford is a must win game you really the p1ss. You can always recover from most losses in league. That one game they had to win to materially impact their season they were an embarrassment.

What I think is if Wigan get the final they have a leader in O'Loughlin and they have potentially the best side in the competition. Wigan are the one side I wouldn't want to play in the play off semi final.

Oh give over it's bloody laughable this site.

2015 - we haven't got better everyone has just gone backwards

2016 - other teams have gone forwards whilst we stood still/went backwards

2017 - we haven't got better everyone has just gone backwards

We've still got a lot of room to improve but anybody who thinks we haven't improved a lot since the first half of 2016 needs to give their head a shake and stop being determined to be negative.

The others team in league, again they plenty of room for improvement, but the overall standard isn't really any different from 2016. It hasn't dropped dramatically at all. It's just a weak excuse because Leeds have finished much higher than what many tipped.

Nah i i have to disagree i think we are a whole lot better this year, that said we have not had the degree of key injuries we had to deal with in the first half of last year which left us cast adrift and gone by the time Segeyaro came and our squad was healthy.

I don't think the comp is all that, far from it but i'd be interested to know where you think it has degraded so significantly i mean, wire suffered the same fate as us with a similar squad to last year and Cas have played great rugby and been better than anything seen last year by a distance thus far. Everywhere else it looks pretty similar to be honest.

What are you watching?
Castleford have been great we are second and deservedly so!

Walker
Briscoe Watkins Sutcliffe Hall
Mcguire Lilley
Garbutt Parcell Singleton
JJB Ward
Cuthbertson

Golding Mullally Keinhorst Ablett

Oh dear, looks like another cricket score in the making, like the first game against Cas this season... Hope I'm wrong, but surely the game is gone at 30-6.

That this leeds team are 2nd is a shocking indictment of super league

you aren't allowed to say that. the forum police will have you.

lucky it's not 50 already, and that's not an understatement

No ash golding to blame for this cricket score

Leeds have a habit of picking which games they perform in this year. As frustrating as this is for supporters, at some point in the game I get the impression some of the players have collectively clocked-off because they know that this is a desirable rather than must-win game. I don't think it improves our chances of ever being able to beat Cas this season (shades of Leeds vs Bulls in 2003), but you never know... Saints repeatedly spanked us for years in the regular season but never did it in a GF. Although in those days we had Peacock and Sinfield...

Hope for the season just about clings by a thread...? If we don't make the GF or get spanked in it, it is surely time for Leeds to follow the example of Souths (sorry Printer!).

The thing about tonight is that it's going to make it even more funnier when we win the GF and people start frothing at the mouth about how we don't deserve it